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archbrix on 29 March 2010
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axt113 said:
archbrix said:
axt113 said:
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none of the above.... I see these dates as too soon.

Nintendo won't be the first to make the move this gen... actually they never are the first to make the move regarding consoles...

really?Did not they annonce 3DS?

Well first off, Handhelds are different than consoles, in addition, the DS is a bit older than the Wii and its sales are starting to decline, also, we don't know all of the facts behind why they moved the 3DS now, were they expecting Sony to release something and moved to pre-empt it, or did they see an opening in Sony's strategy and decide to exploit it?

 

 In consoles on the other hand, the MOVE and NATAL are well known and well understood, and Nintendo has already cut them off with WM+, and are moving on with the Vitality sensor, they can afford to wait until after NATAL and the MOVE expend themselves, and until after the effect of the vitality sensor is seen before planning their next console's release, the Wii has yet to near the end of its run, so they can wait a while longer.

@axt113:

DS sales starting to decline?  Definitely not; 2009 was not only the DS's biggest year yet, it was the biggest selling system in a single year ever, handheld or console.

As far as waiting until Move and Natal establish themselves, that's exactly what Nintendo should NOT do.  Doesn't mean they won't, but they shouldn't rest on their laurels; that's what got them in trouble against the Playstation.

 

 

Except, 2010 is down yoy from 2009, so there is a decline, and with the lineup of DS this year, the decline was apparent even before the 3DS was announced

Nope, what got them in trouble against the Playstation was the lack of games to appeal to the wider audience, instead they launched with games like Mario 64, instead of a Super Mario, and repeated that mistake with GCN, they tried making me too consoles which fail, kind of like what MS and Sony are doing with their motion controllers, this is what got Nintendo into trouble, its also why the Wii is a huge success, because they changed their ways, now MS and Sony are trying the Me-too route, and that will be even worse for them.

Move and NATAL won't establish themselves, so Nintendo can wait for them to flop, check my sig, MOVE is already an assured failure and NATAL is little better

By this rational, 2011 could have a weak lineup for Wii seeing as how Mario, Metroid and possibly Zelda are all being released this year, making a Wii successor even more likely.

Mario 64 not appealing to a wide audience?  It single-handedly sold the N64, which had by far the biggest console launch ever for its time.  They lost to Sony because of them writing-off the importance of third parties and bucking the CD trend which, like I said, was them being over-confident and underestimating the competition.

And to disregard the possible success of Move of Natal is completely premature;  we barely know anything regarding software for the Move and NOTHING yet for Natal, with E3 still to come.  Personally I kind of hope they flop too, but your sig means nothing; NOBODY can know something like that at this point.  There simply isn't enough information yet...