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thismeintiel on 26 March 2010
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nightsurge said:
thismeintiel said:
@ nightsurge

I'm not going to qoute for the sake of web space. But anyway, your logic is completely flawed. So the 360 will never get a pricecut because it will only be replacing sku's? And yet the price will somehow be CUT to $200, eventually? How does that even make sense? The truth is any logical person, as well as the average consumer, will see the subtraction of $100 as a price cut. Only the "fanboys" use the sku argument to make it seem like the ball was always in Sony's court to soften the blow of the PS3 outselling 360 ever since BOTH pricecuts.

And obviously $300 is a sweet spot for the PS3, as it's been selling well since dropping to that price. However, you are right. $200 will be an even bigger sweet spot.

Also, what's with your flawed prices for the Move and Natal bundles? The standalone bundle for Move will be LESS than $100. I'm guessing $80-$90. Why would Sony bundle it with a PS3 for the same or more for the standalone? The point of a bundle is to SAVE money, not spend the same or more. So at most, the Move bundle will be $350, and that's without a PS3 pricecut. And Natal bundled in an Elite for only $250. Yea, ok. If they do a pricecut, the standalone Elite will be $250. So how much with Natal? Well, let's not forget how much MS likes to price their accessories higher than what they normally cost for their PC counterparts, as well as the fact that MS has been pushing Natal as a revolutionary device with new tech. So, I'm guessing that Natal by itself will be $80-$100, if not higher. So the bundle will be AT LEAST $300.

There's clearly no arguing with you.  You can only see one outcome.  I wish people on VGC weren't so narrow minded, but I guess VGC is mostly PS fan dominated so I shouldn't be surprised.  I mean, where were you back in 2008?  Were you as narrow minded and short sighted then and completely caught off guard by a 360 turnaround?

Under $100 basically means $99 in marketing speak.  I'll be surprised if it is any lower since the PS Eye is still $40 and the 2 controllers will be about $50-60 (wand) and $20-30 (nunchuck) respectively.  I know the bundle is just PSEye + Wand + Game, but that's still $100 or more worth of value depending on how much the wand and game would have been priced.

No, the Elite Slim 360 would be $200 if it did not have Natal, so about $250 with Natal bundled, IMO.

I'm narrow-minded because I can see only one outcome?  And yet, you are open-minded because you can see...only one outcome?  Again with your flawed logic.  Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they are closed-minded.  It means they disagree with you.  I can see this argument from many views, however my conclusion after looking at it is what I have stated.  You looked at it and came out with a different opinion.  And I'm narrow-minded because?  It's people who want to just insult others in a debate, or call them narrow-minded, are the ones who are truly closed-minded.

The truth about the pricecut is if you go to anyone in a store and ask, "This product just was dropped by $100, is that a pricecut?"  They will answer yes.  Not ask if there was a cheaper sku before that it replaced.  If the Elite replaced the Pro, than the price would stay the same and the Pro would have just been taken off shelves.  However, the Pro was taken off shelves AND the Elite price was cut.  Like I said, people just used the sku argument to make it seem like Sony had the advantage in terms of price and, therefore, there was no other outcome but the PS3 outselling the 360.  Of course, if the 360 was outselling the PS3, they would be saying that the 360 pricecut had a better affect than the PS3's did

The "under $100" was put up there because Sony is not sure how much they are going to sell the Move bundle for.  If they knew it was going to be $99, they would have just said it was that price.  Granted, there is still a possibility that it could be $99, but I suspect it will fall between $80-$90.  They still have ~7 months to decide what will be a good price for it. 

And do you seriously think that MS is going to sell the Elite at that big of a loss?  I know the 360 is selling at a profit, now, but nowhere near over $100 profit.  The max they can afford to drop the 360 would be around $50.  Plus, it would look bad to the general public if their "top of the line" model was already the same price as a Wii, which is widely known to have inferior hardware (not a jab, just a fact).  It would just make it seem "cheap."  And not in a good way.