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redspear on 24 March 2010
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theprof00 said:
redspear said:

No what I am saying is that there is only one product on the market that you can compare the price with and that is the Hitachi H001 with its 3.1 PB IPS LCD screen. However this phone was only available in Japan as of last year and is no longer on sale. The price would of come down since then.  Looking at the price of an 8in screen tells you nothing. 

There is nothing that indicates the 3DS having an OLED screen so that is a non sequitor you brought up after a false analgy. But even even if you look at the cost of those phones the most are heavily inflated after subsidy and cost well under 200 to make. The ZuneHD has a 3.1 OLED screen and a tegra Chip set with 16 gb of internal memory and you can buy that for 170 if you hunt around sometimes you can get it for 150. The ZuneHD is capable of better graphics then the PSP as well. 

The tech is out there and prices drop and a year from now the 3d technology will be even cheaper. The Nexus One with a 3.7 inch OLED screen cost well under 200 to make as well. But yes we are trying to avoid your questions. You say Cell Phones don't have 4 in screens I list them  You say how many are OLED which doesn't matter I list them. 

Spear, we are PAST the8" screen argument. I already agreed like 10 posts back, which is why we were looking at cellphones. Stop bringing it up, because it's getting annoying.

OLED was brought up by Grimes. The problem with the internet is that, all people tend to read is the posts with the person they are talking with. It isn't just you and me. Try to keep up.

The price of the actual components isn't the question. The question isn't "how much would nintendo make it for", but "how much would nintendo sell it for". I know that I never asked that question, but that's what I'm trying to get at. Sure you can get a ZuneHD for cheap if you shop around, but we are talking about 2 screens which aren't as mass produced as OLEDs are, and sold in a piece of hardware by a company that prefers to make a lot of profit on the console. DSi is 170$ right now. If the 3DS is a DSi with much better graphics, new control style, new components, 3d screens, it is likely it will cost more. At the moment, that could mean +40$ just for the screens. In a year, maybe it will have dropped enough to be even, but still over 200$.

Grimes said OLED tvs a re super expensive, does that mean they are too expensive for cellphones. So I said "not all cellphones have 4" screens". Then you listed the ones that did. Look, if you are going to argue, pay attention to what is said. OK. You are acing like I'm crazy and arrogant when you are completely ignorant of who is posting around you.

You asked me to list "which one of those were OLED". It doesn't matter that is was brought up by Grimes. Grimes point was that prices don't scale linearly. You wanted a prce comparison of an expensive technology we brought up cell phones and manufacture costs to which you say they are heavily subsidized. So I bring up the ZuneHD which you don't have to shop around to get for 170(unless you count Walmart and Amazon as shopping around) all you have to do is Google ZuneHD.

This is a product which will not be out until next year. The technology to drive the 3DS is rumored to be Tegra 2 because of a contract Nintendo entered into with Nvidia earlier this year. the chipset would be backwards compatable  and is the successor to the chip in the ZuneHD making it a fairere comparison. In a years time the price of the Tegra will be even cheaper. The Zune HD was released a while ago and was the first major consumer product to be released with an OLED screen and it was not mass produced back then. It cost 199 at launch. Given by the time this comes out the Tegra2 willbe in a lot more devices and much more manufactures then the original Tegra it is not hard to see how it would be cheaper.