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@jarrod

yea you're right. and i probably shouldn't have said that in the first place...and the 360 really is the first american made console to have some decent success. but now that I think about it I don't like most american products lol. they aren't that reliable for the most part. just looking around my house my laptop is sony made my consoles are nintendo and sony made my HDTV is european made and my cars are all japanese made and all work great...and my american made dell desktop computer runs like shit

but I think there is a small truth to my statement because look at the 360 owners who had their consoles break and then went out and bought 2 or 3 more 360's. there has to be some kind of american console pride there if people are willing to spend and extra $500 replacing their hardware. I give the japanese credit for not buying a console with questionable reliability even after the 360 got a bunch of JRPG's