Reggie: No one would want Move when they have Wii

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Twistedpixel said:

binary solo said:
Thanks for the update captain obvious.

Wii owners thinking about getting a PS3 will want to buy PS3 for reasons other than the Move; doesn't mean they won't also get the Move, but they'll be getting PS3 for things they can't do/get on Wii.

Move is there to convince people thinking "Hmmm Wii or PS3?" that they don't need to factor motion controls into their decision, because they both do motion control. With Move, Sony has diminished or eliminated one of the points of difference between PS3 and Wii. So now the decision is not based on user interface functionality but on price and games. Wii still has the price advantage by a large margin. Games wise there's quality on both sides so it just depends on your gaming preferences if price isn't a big deal for you.

If Move ends up being most of what it claims to be then I think it can eat into Wii sales a bit, and it can help convince Wii owners who are already in the "I might buy a PS3 sometime" camp to get themselves a PS3. But Move will never be a major driving force for PS3 HW, at the end of the generation I'd be surprised if it bosted PS3's total by even 5%. And that's if it does well.

The point of differentiation was never the interface. It was always the experience offered. Nintendo doesn't offer a Wii interface, they offer a Wii experience and thats a critical difference. The critical factor is the experience offered by games like Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Mario Kart, New Super Mario Brothers, and Wii Fit. You can't call it even between the two systems on games, the Move is starting from zero and people have already had their fill on the Nintendo titles so clones aren't going to see even 20% of the success, even if they are vastly better.

Of course the differentiation is the interface, you can't separate the interface from the experience, especially when it comes to the Wiimote (motion control in general). Do you think the experience people would have with most of those games you listed would be anywhere near the same or as good if Wii only had a classic controller and the Wiimote never was? Wii wouldn't be where it is if not for the Wiimote. It might still have been the market leader (debateable, probably would have been 360), but it wouldn't be pushing 50% market share.

And if someone doesn't own a Wii then they haven't had their fill of anything that's available on Wii, let alone the motion control experience. So Wii clones on PS3 are actually a good strategy, but only for a small segment of the market. But you seem to be making that point in reference to people who have a Wii and yet you are responding to the part where I was talking about people deciding between buying a Wii or a PS3 (i.e. they don't currently own either). So in reference to people do have Wii I fully agree (note my opening sentence: Reggie's quote in the thread title is stating the obvious).

You're saying Nintenclones won't have even 20% of the success on PS3 as the originals on Wii. I say Move might only account for about 5% of PS3 HW sales for the generation. It seems in the final analysis we more or less agree.