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jarrod on 02 March 2010
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Hero_time88 said:
jarrod said:
Hero_time88 said:
You don't think FFXIV can't sell above 200k for a console with a more online centric audience than the PS2 which also includes a harddrive?

Why is Kirby always there? To fill something?

Nope, I think it'll do about the same as FFXI absolute best case scenario.  When FFXI launched it was PS2 only (with a bundled HDD), the PC port came six months later.   FFXIV is PS3/PC day-and-date, and most MMORPG players in Japan still game on PCs.  That's where the MoHun Frontier and FFXI crowds are, and that's who FFXIV is targeting.

Not so sure about that. The harddrive wasn't a standard with the PS2 back then (The PStwo that did came two years later didn't even have the option), and appearently they are aiming at a more mainstream audience with FFXIV, or atleast that's what they say in interviews.

I won't sell great by any means, but I think part of that PC audience that you are referring to could actually move to the PS3 just like the shooter fanbase has moved from the PC to the HD consoles in the west, and perhaps the more mainstream FF fan if it's end up being a more accesible game.

 

By "mainstream" they mean "Monster Hunter".  Read up on FFXIV, they're taking almost all their cues from MoHun design wise.  Also, the PS2 HDD came with FFXI, it was a pretty effortless process for people who wanted to play it.  Also, the price of a PS2+FFXI+HDD (about 38,000 yen) then will be about the same as a PS3+FFXIV this year (about 38,000 yen).

I do think FFXIV PS3 presents a good opportunity to ensnare some PC MMORPG gamers, most in Japan game at PC bangs, cybercafes, work, school, etc.  PS3's pretty cheap, and would let them do it from home.  Kinda the same thing for MHFO on 360 imo, though that game already has it's installed PC base in place which probably makes it a little harder.  Still, I don't think you can really expect a groundswell exodus to consoles, the general culture there tends to favor entertainment outside the home (which is also partially why handheld gaming has taken over).  I think MAX for FFXIV PS3 will be ~200k and MHFO 360 ~100k.

 

edit: The western PC to consoles FPS shift isn't really comparable though imo.  The core problem in the west is piracy, which isn't an issue for MMORPGs (subscriptions vs retail).  And even still, I'd say stuff like L4D shows a stronger PC audience when the product is well supported for the community.  The western shift is really because content isn't available to PC gamers (Halo 3) or because PC equivalents are getting dumbed down/held back for console audiences (MW2), and the ultimate reasons behind that are piracy.