So who thought Sony was crazy when they said the PS3 will sell 13m for 2009

[Twistedpixel]

joeorc said:

Twistedpixel said:

Congratulations on not reading. I said price was a factor however it was not the only factor because in some markets where a 'higher' price wasn't as important a factor the PS3 is still down in sales compared to the PS2. Europe proves that the loss in sales volume between the PS2 and PS3 was more due to compelling competitor offerings than it was due to a higher price.

Even if the Xbox 360 was released 1st it doesn't matter. If the Xbox 360 and Wii were not compelling then people would have simply held off buying the PS3 but they would have pretty much all ended up going back to the Playstation when it had the software and price they wanted. It doesn't matter when a competitor releases something if its not compelling. Even if the PS3 was released for a lower price like $299 the other consoles would have still eroded PS3 market share because they were still compelling in isolation relative to what the PS3 was and is.

o'l i read it just fine.

so let me get this straight, you saying that the Xbox360 releasing first does not matter?

when the only other system's on the market was the PS2 and the Game Cube as a choice?

right. like that does not matter?

that's a big selling component, at the time that was the best graphic's machine aside from the PC . so yea it does matter to some.

"Even if the PS3 was released for a lower price like $299 the other consoles would have still eroded PS3 market share because they were still compelling in isolation relative to what the PS3 was and is."

you sure of that? resistance was a pretty d@mn good game, so was folklore and since the first PS3's also allowed you to run ps2 software. you bet a $299.00 playstation 3 would have been a major system at that price..o'l wait it is. one only has to look at the PS3 slim, yea it cannot play play PS2 disc's "yet" but it has BC with PS1 game's

to sit there and say a $299.00 price point in 2007 would not have been an major effect on sale's of the PS3  in Europe is just plain silly.

which is what your implying you are saying the PS3 when it was first released would still not be as compelling as the xbox360 or the Wii even at $299.00

gotcha, you are silly I give you that bless ya.!

If it had released first without compelling software it would not have mattered. It was the compelling software which came out quickly upon launch which made the difference for the Xbox 360.

The Wii always had 1st place locked up. They had the holy trinity of Wii Sports, Mario Kart and Wii Fit. The most epic combination of system sellers out in the first year and a half as well as Zelda and I think SMG though I forget when that launched.

What im saying is that for 2nd place Microsoft still had to earn it. They got compelling software out quickly and it worked. Otherwise the Xbox 360 would have lost quickly to the PS3 because it couldn't make any ground.

The European PS3 price was indentical to the PS2 launch price, therefore the price in that market was NOT a factor after 6 months on the market. Because Europeans are used to paying that price it did not make the PS3 seem expensive at all. Japan wouldn't give the Xbox the time of day anyway and that left the U.S. market. $399 is pretty close to $299 adjusting for 7 years of inflation, the key in that market was the massive bundle in 2007 and Halo along with Bioshock. The Xbox 360 won this market in 2007 with only a $50 price difference between the 20GB and the PS3, the Arcade was hardly a factor in this at all.