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I don't believe it, Cliff B is just one to say its about maxed out, In 5 years they would of made a engine to look better, Mass Effect 2 looked good but still not a top contender among the 2 HD consoles. People need to face it, The 360 is a great gaming system, but its not going to pull off PS3 top notch graphics, it just wont, it does not have the technology in many ways, Thats not taking anything away, Mass Effect 2 is on 360 and its probably my favorite game all time, Graphics were good enough. Thats were the 360 stands.