So who thought Sony was crazy when they said the PS3 will sell 13m for 2009

[Twistedpixel]

joeorc said:

Twistedpixel said:

Why are you talking about dollars? Im saying that in Europe the price has never been a factor because for the most part the price has always been as high as it was. Since price is removed as a factor then you have to look at the good work of the competition for the reasons why the PS3 performed poorly relative to the PS2 in that region.

Within 6 months of the PS2s launch there were a lot of shortages, within 6 months of the PS3s launch the price was too high. That doesn't make much difference in terms of overall demand for that region as one roughly counters the other and then the PS3 price drops and availability is no longer constrained so therefore extremely comparable.

The world doesn't revolve around the U.S. and the price of the Playstation there. Read the graph again and see that the PS3 falls behind the PS2 and price was never a factor. The Wii stole the Playstation market and ditto for the Xbox 360 to a lesser extent. The PS3 got schooled because the other consoles got appealing content and experiences out faster and more often in the first couple of years. It had nothing to do with the PS3 being too expensive.

No it does not ,but on the same token the US is not europe just like Europe is not the US you keep pointing out that Europe is the ACID TEST. why would the United states not be an Acid test also? it's all subjective.

And once again it's the percieved Value of the product @ Price I am not saying the percieved value had nothing to do with it vs' other system's out there, I am saying on a region by region basis PRICE had a big detriment to the sell of the system.

 as an example:

singapore of $799.00 for the PS3 when it was first released.

 

Because price is not a factor in Europe. You can't say "PS3 didn't perform as well because the price was too high" because the price for the most part has been close to and either lower or higher than the historical PS2 price there. Price factor removed. It means you can look at other factors without running in circles saying the price was too high the price was too high...

Since the system launched later with quality content coming quicker then you can somewhat remove the lateness of some of the software as Uncharted 1 for example was only 6 months later and I believe Oblivion was a launch title. 

So therefore you can look at the difference between the PS2 and PS3 in Europe and say this rough percentage is the difference caused by competition and then anything greater than that in other regions you can say the difference is the price. 

So if the PS3 is 30% down in Europe and 50% down in the U.S. you can say that roughly 30% of the reduced sales of the PS3 relative to the PS2 was competitor actions and 20% was due to a higher launch price and higher price thereafter.