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highwaystar101 on 19 February 2010
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Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:
sguy78 said:

The main scientist behind the "undeniable fact" that there has been unprecedented warming of the Earth over the last 15 years has admitted that his numbers were flawed, and there has been no discernable global warming over said 15 years.

If you can find me a scientist working with something so hard to measure as climate change who will honestly say that his results aren't flawed in some way, then please bring him to me. He will be an oddity. The lack of transparency in results comes from further down the line (media, journals, politics, etc...).

Anyway, yes I do accept that man made climate change is happening and it is a man made phenomenon. However, I do not believe all the doomsday scenarios I read about.

At best measuring greenhouse gases is an extremely hard task to do. There are so many greenhouse gases, and we don't even know the emission volumes for the vast majority of them. At best we can guess, and this leads to quite a wide band of results. But when papers and politicians get hold of these results they are unlikely to use the small results because they don't win votes and sell newspapers. So they constantly press on the idea that global warming will destroy mankind, and will use the high ranging results to press that point. A headline like "We will all be dead in 10 years!" sounds better than "Holland may see floods by 2100".

I don't think mankind has as much to worry about as they think with climate change.

However, I do see many of the positive benefits of this climate change panic. Let's face it, environmentalism is through the roof and that is having a lot of social and economical benefits. 

I'd expect better from you highway star... for the last 15 years the temepture rise has been statistically insignifcant.

What is the conclusion you are supposed to make when something is statistical insignifcant?

It's that it's not happening.

 

I mean think about it...  EVERYONE who knows something about the climate will tell you that an unnatural global warming effect is supposed to multiply.

As you put more CO2 in the air, the warming gets worse, which makes more greenhouse gasses get put back in the air.

 

If it's suddenly insignificant there are HUGE holes in the modern climate theory.

 

You expected better from me? Judging by the usual low quality posts I write, that can't be good.

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Anyway,

Why do people confuse what I say with a typical hippie liberal response when it comes to climate change? I thinks it's a "guns blazing" response that many people do; sorry Kasz, I mean no offense.

I understand that for the past 15 years there has been no statistically significant change in temperatures, I also understand that the temperatures will rise exponentially as the climate goes out of control. More heat leads to continually worsening climate change, kind of like with Venus. However, I still think that man made climate change exists, it's just that effects aren't that prominent yet, nor will they ever really be.

As I implied earlier I am more of a person who thinks Holland may see more floods than usual in 2100.

As for the theory, I'm willing to admit there are many holes in the theory that still wait to see if they falsify global warming or require it to be adapted to new evidence. I think that the theory will require a lot of adapting in the future. Especially with the lack of transparency we currently have.

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I admit that I'm not as well versed as some people with climate change. This is just an opinion at best.