mrstickball said:
Kasz216 said:
mrstickball said:
Kasz216 said:
TheRealMafoo said:
The question is when?
it is my opinion, if it was left up to the US to make a move, we would do it after they nuke someone (probably not us).
I don't think it will get that far. I think sometime in the next year, Israel will take the offensive, and strike.
How do you think this will play out?
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So you suspect before you move then based on we? (Oh, the entire UN... I don't see that. I think they'll sit back, let the US bailout Israel and convientaly blame the US for something they would do anyway if the US didn't step in.)
As for when... no clue really. It's going to REALLY suck...
Iran makes Afghanistan and Iraq look like childsplay when it comes to guerilla warfare. The east half of Iran is pretty much nothing but a Guerilla Haven, wile all the important stuff is in west Iran... which means... the east is where they're going to end up being pushed.
If they try a rebuilding war... good luck. It'll be worse then Iraq and Afghanistan combined. A just mess stuff up war... I'm not sure how much good it will do.
Either way I suspect the EU will use the situation to get Israel to give up concessions to Palesetine.
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If the UN or such goes to war with Iran, I don't see why they'd try a war of occupation. Their ADA isn't stellar, and it would be fairly easy to simply route their air force and defenses surrounding any uranium plant.
But honestly, I don't think the US, under Obama, nor the UN will do anything militarily against Iran unless Iran nukes Europe or the US. I honestly wonder if they'd even do anything against Iran if they hit Israel.
Personal opinion is that Israel will strike at some point, and get denounced by the world as evil for its actions.
If Iran tries to strike Israel....Expect the population of the middle east to thin out really quickly. War scenarios point to ~30 million dead Iranians within a day or two.
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I mostly agree with that. Is Israel really strong enough to take out the offending Iranian stuff themselves though?
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Yes, Israel has the capabilities to pacify Iran's nuclear program. They've been building up an incredible fleet of F-15's that have the distance and capability of hitting Iranian targets. Interesting factoid, I've met the guy that sold them the F-15s. He knew his stuff (I played 20 questions about F-15I specs and he knew his stuff top to bottom), and he made the statement that Israel wasn't playing when they purchase armaments. They know exactly what 15's are for, and what they can do to Iran.
Speaking from a tactical standpoint, the real question is if Israel has the intelligence to strike enough Iranian targets to cause enough damage to have the Iranian programme shut down, or hindered until other sanctions/blockers can be placed. That would be where other friendly nations come in (US, Turkey).
The scary thing is, I really worry about how this plays out. Unlike other regimes that want to keep power, Ahmadinejad knows that his power base is waining, and that he won the election illegally. The only way for him to keep his country under control is to do something way out there....And its not *just* getting nukes, but proving they are a superpower by using them.
I would highly advise any and all Iranians to get out of dodge before nuclear fire comes to town.
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