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illuvatar said:
i'm looking for a gaming laptop that's roughly mid range specs all round
Thanks for all the help so far

The problem is that 'midrange specs' is too weak to play any recent PC games. And high-end is barely good enough but is hugely expensive and the laptops have poor battery life and are heavy.

Could your need be fulfilled by a small form factor PC? Because that would be a third of the price, actually be able to handle games at your native resolution on medium-high settings, and not have the issues of a high-end laptop.

 

If you insist on a gaming laptop, then I recommend this chart:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html

and this hierarchy list (look under 'Class 1' in the centre column):

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-4870-X2-Crossfire.14406.0.html

Anything in Class 2 is considered Midrange, anything Class 1 high-end. But even those midrange cards are pathetically weak compared to cheap desktop cards.