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Hey, I didnt like MGS4, it had way too many cutscenes, but admittedly, the game wasnt for me. I didnt play the game down for its amazing achievements, both in terms of game play and technical qualities.

Uncharted 2 raised the bar above the 1st Uncharted in every single way. it took what the 1st had and raised the bar twice as high.The combat and shoot outs were less linear, there were more set pieces, more locations, more variety, better story telling, better atmosphere and more options on how to play (mp, co-op).

If you dont like the game, fair enough, you deserve to have an opinion, but you cannot speak for everyone or call people out by saying they are not gamers if they do not agree with you. I am sure you will find most people here probably dont, just the same as if i was to make a thread saying MGS4 isnt all so great cuz i said so and all you who disagree are not gamers.