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disolitude said:
axumblade said:
disolitude said:
BMaker11 said:
disolitude said:

Wow I never realized so many half witted people on the intranetZ don't know what they are talking about and try to pass their lack of knowledge as facts.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/microsoft-paid-50m-advance-gta-iv-content

"Next-Gen contacted Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter, who further explained the deal. "What Microsoft did was pay a $50 million advance," he said, much in the same way a big-name author receives a payment in advance of his or her next book."

"If revenues don't meet that figure, Take-Two will have to return some of the advance, according to Pachter. But he said that there's no reason to believe Take-Two would actually miss that revenue target."

MS paid for the DLC to get made, be exclusive for a year and got their money back, one way or another. Now PS3 owners get to enjoy this game. Mission acomplished for all.  Lets move on.

Hrmm....listen to what Take Two said? Or listen to Pachter?


I'd trust Pachter unless you have a link which quotes take two employee saying "Microsoft paid 50 million for this DLC and we got to fuck them royaly!"

MS management ain't no fool to waste money like that...they are infact considered one of the best management companies out there. they could have easily bought full timed GTA4 exclusivity for 50 million.

In all honesty, it does make sense. I'm not sure if Microsoft shouted the figure out or not but it's a good way to advertise that you're paying for exclusivity.

Also, did you call people halfwitted and then quote Pachter? I mean, he's been on the ball lately but there was a long time that he was off his game before his recent string of successes.. 


No one other than Pachter has come out and said anything about this deal. Every other article is "MS pays 50 mil for GTA4 DLC...the end". No details.

I didn't say people were halfwitted based on this article alone...all possibilities of MS giving cash 50 mil to take two without any strings attached flew out the window when the PS3/PC version was announced.

Just think about it...

Microsoft: "We will pay you 50 million, which you don't have to pay back or we dont have to earn back. And no, we don't want to make this DLC exclusive. We want to only keep it on our console for a year."

I mean, if it was Sega...maybe, Atari...definetly...but Microsoft doesn't do business like this.

So.....since the beginning of the generation, all those "exclusives" that Microsoft nabbed up were just from loan money, is what you're trying to say? Bioshock was a loan? Multiple JRPGs were a loan? I doubt that they just loan money out to every developers for timed exclusivity on their games. The INDUSTRY doesn't do business like that.