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jarrod on 29 January 2010
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darthdevidem01 said:
jarrod said:
Demotruk said:
jammy2211 said:

 Yeah I get that it's the same guy, I'm not sure, I just think it's a bit shameful for them to be trying to make a Final Fantasy. Like sure, you can have your influences and stuff, but this - based of what we know so far - feels like it's trying to actually build it's appeal off of being a Final Fantasy game.

 I'm sure I'll love it and stuff though, and be able to look past all that. To me though the JRPG genre needs reinvigorating and new ideas, whereas this just seems to be the sort of thing that's made it stale in the west.

 I'll wait for Gameplay anyway, It'll no doubt be an awesome game if their track record if anything to go off. It's just not the direction I personally want to see the big name JRPG's folk going in.

They're getting stale in the East too. How many series are outperforming their past? Dragon Quest is, but most of them are floundering.

Just Dragon Quest (DS), Pokemon (DS), Monster Hunter (PSP/Wii), Phantasy Star Online (PSP/DS) and Mario RPGs (DS/Wii) are outperforming last gen afaik.  We do have some promising new IPs doing really well too though, like Inazuma Eleven and (soon) Nunokuni.

Though then again, we've seen a LOT of RPGs take major to minor tumbles.  Stuff like Star Ocean (360), Tales (lol, everywhere), Rockman RPGs (DS), Suikoden (DS), Megaten (DS), Disgaea (PS3), Ys (PSP) and Final Fantasy (PS3).  And many, many more new RPGs have been relative nonstarters (Blue Dragon, ASH, Jeanne D'Arc, TWEWY, Last Remnant, Folklore, Soma Bringer, Lost Odyssey, etc, etc).  JRPGs aren't exactly in amazing shape today.

Apart from FF, KH & DQ when have they been in great shape?

please name me million selling JRPG's last gen apart from FF, DQ, KH

Yes I know Tales of symphonia & SO3 got there,  but thats all.

Lost oddesy's sales are fantastic for a JRPG, if lets lost oddesy was multiplat it could be well over 1 million by now, way way over it.

We need a first TRUE multiplat JRPG (not timed exclusivity stuff) on PS360 to decide their fate, we get two of those in March, FFXIII & ROF.

I'm talking about just Japan.  Pokemon always hit multiple millions there and Megaman Battle Network 4 almost did a million.

In terms of million selling (YSO shipments) RPG series each gen in Japan so far...

  • Dragon Quest (FC) 3 games
  • Zelda no Densetsu (FDS) 1 game
  • SaGa (GB) 1 game
  • Final Fantasy (FC) 1 game
  • Final Fantasy (SFC) 3 games
  • Dragon Quest (SFC) 5 games
  • Seiken Densetsu (SFC) 1 game
  • Romancing SaGa (SFC) 2 games
  • Chrono Trigger (SFC) 1 game
  • Pocket Monsters (GB) 2 games
  • Super Mario RPG (SFC) 1 game
  • Yu-Gi-OH! Duel Monsters (GB) 1 game
  • Arc the Lad (PS) 1 game
  • Final Fantasy (PS) 3 games
  • Final Fantasy Tactics (PS) 1 game
  • Chocobo Fushigino Dungeon (PS) 1 game
  • SaGa Frontier (PS) 1 game
  • Parasite Eve (PS) 1 game
  • Pocket Monsters (GBC) 2 games
  • Dragon Quest Monsters (GBC) 2 games
  • Yu-Gi-OH! Duel Monsters (GBC) 2 gamea
  • Dragon Quest (PS) 2 games
  • Final Fantasy (PS2) 3 games
  • Pocket Monsters (GBA) 2 games
  • Kingdom Hearts (PS2) 2 games
  • Dragon Quest (PS2) 2 games
  • Final Fantasy (DS/PS3) 2 games
  • Pocket Monsters (DS) 3 games
  • Dragon Quest Monsters (DS) 1 game
  • Monster Hunter (PSP/Wii) 4 games
  • Pokemon Fushigino Dungeon (DS) 1 game
  • Dragon Quest (DS) 3 games
  • Inazuma Eleven (DS) 1 game

...and soon you can probably add

  • Pocket Monsters (DS) 1 more game
  • Dragon Quest Monsters (DS) 1 more game
  • Dragon Quest (DS/Wii) 2 more games
  • God Eater (PSP) 1 game
  • Nunokuni (DS) 1 game

 

 

...this gen's definitely been better for the higher end sellers, but it's the midline and niche RPGs that have fallen off.  It's either hit it big, and strike out. :/