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Slimebeast on 27 January 2010
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twesterm said:
Slimebeast said:
twesterm said:

My answer -- Bioware

My thoughts:

  • Square Enix - They use to be the kings of RPG's but now they're the ones destroying the genre (or at least the JRPG genre on consoles).  The stories are bland, the characters are boring, and it's all about creating the best graphics.
  • Bioware - Mass Effect alone is enough to make Bioware play with the big boys but they also have Baldur's Gate, Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age, and Neverwinter Nights.  Bioware is easily the king of RPG's.  They have characters, story, and as an added bonus the games are even fun!
  • Bethesda - The make interesting open worlds with interesting stories, but the gameplay is just so bad.  It's just so odd to me how they can make such a bad FPS in a world where making even a decent competent FPS is so easy.

I don't understand why you think that. Could u elaborate?

What parts of the gameplay are bad?

I think the gameplay mechanics are awesome. Well, not so perfect in Morrowind, but in Oblivion it is. The inventory, user interface but especially the movement and combat is top notch. The switch between real-time and pausing feels smooth and right. I really get a good feel of the weapons, feeback when hitting, aiming is great, it all feels realistic and raw. And it hasn't any of these stupid motion captured animations that I usually just hate because they still feel scripted and unnatural in most games.

Well, since u said "FPS" maybe u mainly meant Fallout 3? Okay, as a shooter I felt Fallout 3 was a lil bit stiff. It didn't feel entirely right to use the basic Oblivion mechanics and convert it to a shooter. Okay, you must have meant Fallout 3.

Just the basic gunplay is bad.  Aiming always feels off and melee isn't that fun either.  It's been a while since I played Fallout 3 or Oblivion, but in both games the gameplay just can't support the length of the game.

They somehow fuck up something that is incredibly basic.

With Fallout 3 and Oblivion, they both get to the point where the game just gets boring.  It took Fallout 3 longer to get to this point thankfully, but they both just get to a point where the game is so easy it just becomes boring.  You find your one little niche weapon and slaughter everything.  The horrible gun/melee play goes from bad to just boring.

Also, you have little motivation to just continue with the stories.  Again, Fallout 3 did a much better just at motivating you to continue on, but in an open world game like that it's hard to make the player stay interested in the main story and they just do a badjob at that.  I know only a handful of people that finished the main quest on Oblivion, most people don't get past Kvatch.  They spend so much time giving you an insane amount of sidequests that you just forget about the point of the game.

I honestly do not see why Bethesda gets the love that they do.  Again, fantastic interesting worlds, bad gameplay.

The usual complaints then. I thought u meant only core gameplay mechanics, mostly technical aspects, but u also included story-telling, fun-factor and everything. Okay, then I understand.

But if the player thinks the worlds truly are fantastic and interesting they won't stop playing until they cleared out every dungeon and mine lol.

You too quit at Kvatch lol?