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Ryudo said:

Actually I still found it enjoyable but the FACT remains it ripped off an older film in about every major detail and was one of disneys weaker films,good still but not the best by any means not even close.

The man gave us such amazing films as The Abyss,Terminator series(T1-T2) Aliens,Titanic(ok love story was weak in that film but his famed attention to detail still made it brilliant) While Avatar he didn't do much for detail and used a rehashed plot a gimmicky 3d thing that has been around forever. He just gives the impression he is getting lazy and only getting the same hype as before based on rep and his famous hype factor.

District 9 is much more original a better made film despite being on a fraction of the budget. Not saying I enjoyed District 9 more just saying it was a better film for the sci fi genre of 2009. I enjoyed Star trek the most even though I found much of the plot very silly but still remained very entertaining.  Avatar all i am saying is still an enjoyable film but was not even the best film in the sci fi genre of 2009.(You also might want to check out Moon) It's just that Camerons name and rep hypes it up so much people shat themselves over it.

I am just looking at it from a non biased objective POV and wish people would stop hyping it as the "best" it maybe many peoples favorite film this year but too many of them mix that up with best.

EDIT: on your NBA analogy,don't forget back then Wilt didn't have a 3 point line,there wasn't 3 point lines back then.

Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it then. And I'll agree with you that Avatar's strength wasn't its story. I definitely wont argue that it holds a lot of similarities with other movies such as Dances with Wolves, The Last Samurai, and (the previously mentioned) Pocahontas. But I think what sets it apart from those movies is the world in which the story is played out. No one has ever seen anything like Pandora before, and I think that's what keeps audiences coming in to see it.

EDIT: Oh, and Neytiri is teh hawts compared to Pocahontas, so that counts as something.

Reasonable put it perfectly. He may have not thought it was the best movie ever due to a "cliched" plot, but he also loved the world of Pandora, saying: "Now, with Pandora established, I want some narrative risks and originality next time around." That's why I'm also excited for the sequels that Cameron is planning, because we've only seen a tiny bit of a wonderful world, and now we can see the director take more risks in the story and the imagination. "Avatar" proved to be a great jumping off point.

And I'm not going to debate the points of a "superior" Sci-Fi movie, although I've seen both Disctrict 9 and Star Trek too (and you're right, both of 'em are great!) Haven't seen Moon though, but I hear it's pretty fantastic. I'm not going to say it's my favorite movie ever (Fellowship of the Ring) or even my favorite movie of the past few years (The Dark Knight), but Avatar is definitely a enjoyable experience. And I'm glad it's doing well.

Either way, we'll be playing No More Heroes 2 soon enough, so all will be right in the world anyways.