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Lord Flashheart said:
Germany do seem to over-achieve as Kowenicki put whereas England under-achieve. We have big name, big game stars yet when it comes to the National side they are disorganised and inconsistant whereas Germany have unity. That counts for a lot. Wish our guys had it.

It could be that Germany's players aren't paraded at every big event on TV like prima-donas so don't have the world wide recognition that players from England, Italy, Spain, portugal and Brazil have but have every bit the skill.

I would not count them out for a second. A team that plays as a team will always punch above their weight.

On paper, England have the squad to win the World Cup, definately and Germany's squad looks like it shouldn't even get close. However, as one of my mates loves to say "Football is played on grass, not paper"