| LordTheNightKnight said: We won't buy $60 versions of games with weaker controls and graphics that hit the uncanny valley and are dirt brown. |
You're deliberately being unfair and you know it. If you insist on continuing in this manner, so be it, but you've just forfeited the right to complain when the games you favor are painted with a similarly overbroad brush.
| famousringo said: Let me tell youa story of two delis, located across the street from each other. The Wii Deli specializes in club sandwiches, and the HD Deli makes great big deluxe submarine sandwiches. Threepee, a sandwich maker working at HD Deli, is having a hard time making ends meet. He makes a mean submarine sandwich, but there just aren't always enough people hungry for a submarine sandwich to pay the bills. Threepee looks across the street, and sees people lined up to get into Wii Deli. Seeing dollar signs, Threepee walks across the street and asks the proprietor if he could use another sandwich maker. The propietor agrees, noting that he's having trouble meeting demand and customers like variety. So Threepee starts selling sandwiches, only he can't afford to buy all the ingredients that he puts into his submarine sandwiches. That should be okay, because if these people wanted a submarine sandwich, they'd be across the street anyway. He doesn't want to compete with the propietor's club sandwiches, because he thinks people will just turn up their nose and buy from him. So Threepee makes cheese sandwiches: Just a couple pieces of Wonderbread with a slice of processed cheese in the middle. At first, things go well. Customers are tired of waiting in line for club sandwiches, so they try a cheese sandwich for a little variety. Threepee thinks this is great, and starts making more and more cheese sandwiches. But the customers aren't enthused. Where's the tomato? The turkey? It's a little unsatisfying. So they go back to waiting in line for club sandwiches. Threepee's response to this development is anger. He's spent a lot of money on Wonderbread and processed cheese. Rather than trying to make club sandwiches, or coming up with a sandwich that's different, but just as satisfying, Threepee angrily blames the customers of the Wii Deli for not buying his sandwiches. He tells them that he thinks they're ignorant people who don't even like sandwiches and storms out of the deli. Now tell me, do the customers of the Wii Deli have any reason to find Threepee annoying? |
This post gets the Official Noname Seal of Approval.*
*Twenty years from now, when famousringo starts trying to also appeal to the Casual Forum Member Market, butthurt and ignorant fools will mistake the purpose of said seal.
| Avinash_Tyagi said: Name five third party games I would like on the Wii |
Little King's Story.
Monster Hunter 3.
Klonoa.
A Boy and His Blob.
Dokapon Kingdom.
| Smeags said: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
This was first posted April 1, 2008. Progress Schmogress. |
Whatever happened to Episode 8?
| Lurker said: Third parties are just being smart. PS3, 360 and PC have the bigger install base than Wii and more than 50% of the market. That's why most third parties are making games on all 3 instead of the Wii. |
Yes.
Ari_Gold said:
you're an exception, most wii only owners in the site, lie to themselves and say that they're happi with the games they get . |
Those pitiful fools. If only they had your vision, standards, and honesty!
| theRepublic said: What big, core third party titles? Resident Evil 4? Monster Hunter 3? Call of Duty? What big, core third party title performed so poorly? I can't seem to recall one. I know quite a few low budget, niche third party games which underperformed according to this forum, but I'm not sure what games you are talking about. |
Madworld, House of the Dead, and The Conduit.
Oh wait, the games' publisher disagrees on 2/3 of those.
The Conduit, Dead Space: Extraction, and Darkside Chronicles.
| Wyrdness said: How come people are now combining PS3/360/PC userbases to calculate market share when normally it's done individually as development for each platform is financially different, is this a new trend? |
Not new.
It goes back, oh, three years or so.
| Lurker said: The Wii will never have that PS2 level of marketshare because that extra 20% or more is spread around to the HD. When PS2 was on top it had everyone on there. Casual, hardcore and whatever else. Third parties had no problem with that. The kind of games they like making sell more on HD. |
At the risk of sounding insulting, I wonder if you yourself realize how close to the mark you just struck...
| SaviorX said: The average decent HD game costs $15-30m; how many 3rd parties spent that much on a Wii game? In terms of the games themselves, how many 3rd party Wii games are longer than 12 hours straight? Only XSeed titles.... |
Underlined: One. Maybe. I'm not entirely sure about Monster Hunter 3's budget. So, maybe.
Bolded: That's a load of codswallop and we both know it.
| The Ghost of RubangB said: Threepee moves back to the mainland and works for the big submarine sandwich empire, takes out a loan to buy 100 new ingredients and introduces his biggest sandwich yet, with many Lairs and Lairs of meats and cheeses, and even adds some expensive rare giant enemy crabmeat. When he releases his new sandwich, he invites all the food critics to come try it out, and lets them now that there's a stupid island out there full of morons who wouldn't know good sandwiches if they crawled up their ass, died, and blamed Wii Fit. Threepee's sandwich tastes like shit, costs too much, and makes one of the food critics vomit. Another critic says "Hey aren't you that cheese sandwich moron who said we don't know what good sandwiches are?" Sandwich-goers of all creeds abandon him. Threepee is now homeless. And as he wanders the street looking for crumbs, he can look off into the Pacific, and see a great island building a glorious tower into the heavens, with new kinds of sandwiches that don't even need bread! Some are open-faced, and some use lettuce on the outside, a crazy insult to the sandwiches of the oldschool! But since everybody is so fat from all those giant submarine sandwiches, the Island introduces the Atkins Diet, and lettuce sandwiches take over the world. |
I strongly disagree with this continuation. Mine would go something like:
Threepee returns to the mainland, embittered by how his Kraft-N'-Cardboard Wonder Sandwhich™ failed to light a fire under the Club Sandwhich people. He vows to never again make a Club Sandwhich in his life.
Instead, he doubles down on his Submarine Sandwhich. He mortgages his properties, takes out large loans, and hires several assistants. He purchases only the finest quality ingredients from around the world. He spends weeks of feverish work planning out the most minute detail of his new Masterpeice.
In the end, his newest Submarine Sandwhich is everything he could have hoped for. He invites food critics to try his new creation (the junket includes performances by star musicians, speeches by famous celebrities, and massive amounts of free alcohol to dazzle the critics: no expense is spared!). They love it! The critics rush to their blogs and post about how Threepee's Grand Submarine Sandwhich™ is the finest thing to happen to sandwhiches since Sourdough. Armed with these accolades, Threepee now knows that he made the right choice in abandoning the Club Sandwhich store, and he eagerly looks forward to recouping his staggering investment at the public unveiling of his work of Genius.
Sure enough, when the doors to the Submarine store open the next morning, Threepee's sandwhich is a hit! Folks line up around the block just to try this newest sandwhich craze. At the end of the month, Threepee's Grand Submarine Sandwhich™ is number one on the prestigious National Best Sandwhich Sales List.©
Unfortunately for Threepee, at the start of the next month, someone else comes out with a different Submarine Sandwhich. The critics who had been raving about his life's work only days before rush to forget him; this month it's all about loving NBT's Submarine Sandwhich™ (which, the critics lament, can only be reviewed in two-inch segments, and they must agree to be flown to Tahiti and put up in 5-star resorts: woe unto he who is they!). The customers who had lined up for Threepee's sandwhiches have vanished: NBT is where it's at this month, although if you want Threepee's Grand Submarine Sandwhich,™ they're willing to sell you their refridgerated leftover copy for pennies on the dollar.
Threepee is devastated. The masses who threw their money at him on Day One are gone, and while they did give him lots of cash, it was only a fraction of the loan he had taken out to fund Threepee's Grand Submarine Sandwhich.™ The assistants he'd hired have to be let go; the properties he'd mortgaged are forfeited to the bank. Now out of a job, and deep in bankruptcy, Threepee has taken to ranting on Sandwhich forums about how his life would have been so much better if Club Sandwhich Empire had subsidized and marketed his Kraft-N'-Cardboard Wonder Sandwhich™ all those years ago, or if they would have just done their job and funded his Grand Submarine Sandwhich™ (letting Threepee keep all the profits, of course!).
He's moved back in with his mother, and now spends his spare time nibbling on Bon-Bons and watching soap operas.
| Carl2291 said: It's not possible to give them the features that were on the HD versions. We both know this. |
True, Wii games can't do zombies particularly well...
| --OkeyDokey-- said: So when do we stop blaming third parties and start blaming Nintendo for making a console that no one wants to develop for? |
Sometime shortly after we suffer a major concussion, and conclude that what developers want is more important than what customers want.
| Alby_da_Wolf said: "Everything on-rails sucks" |
Not even if you tried really hard.
| Ail said: If I want to play Mass Effect or Halo as a PS3 owner, I'm not going to start a petition online or bitch like mad about pulbishers, I will purchase a 360.... |
If you're only speaking for yourself, that's great.
If you're trying to say anything about the PS3 userbase...
You're going to want to pick another example.
