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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Metallicube said:
Alterego-X said:

I have a strange feeling. 

Maybe it is just me whose perceptions changed, but I could swear, that nowadays the whole Nintendo community, and not just on this site, is a lot more supportive to Nintendo and hostile to 3rd parties than ever before, for example, a year ago.

 

In the past, there was cheerful optimism about all upcoming core third party games, and some blaming of Nintendo for not helping to get even more third party games. 

Nowadays, everyone starts to sound like Malstrom: "The Industry Must Die!", "None of them could make any good enough games!",  "Everything on-rails sucks!"

Even on generic core news sites, like Eurogamer, a comment pointing out how retarded Ubisoft is, and their best franchises should have Wii versions, can get voted up. 

Is it just me, or there is something in the winds?

Simple case of every action has an equal and opposite reaction.. Industry has turned hostile towards Nintendo and its fans, so its fans have responded by turning hostile to the industry.

Well considering the 'industry' (as in third parties) really started doing this on the N64, its actually been going on for well over 10 years.  The fact that Nintendo fans have been putting up with it this long is pretty amazing.  I mean, we went an entire system (GameCube) pretty much going 'good games are coming, we can wait'.  And now we've gone 3 YEARS thinking 'The Wii is outselling everything, third parties will eventually make the switch'.  But instead, third parties have done every thing possible to use, skip or even blatantly blame the Wii for bad support.  This is no longer something even a 'casual' fan can overlook.  The third parties are purposefully skipping over Nintendo systems.  Even to the point of some of those companies losing money to do it.

The thing is many of us knew Nintendo was slipping with those systems. The Wii is a success, and when the third parties are refusing to reward that success with proper support, and reward the HD systems for losing billions, I personally would like to smack some heads.

But I personally wouldn't call the N64 or the GC Nintendo 'slipping'  On the contrary, I would call it Nintendo trying to cater to the fans.  Focusing on graphics, better outputs (for their time) and everything else.  The N64 was the better system graphically and the GC was on par with the XBOX.  In all ways, Nintendo was in the position of the 'HD' systems of today.  Yet it didn't get the third party support.  Now Nintendo took the opposite approach, going low tech, high profit like the PSX, PS2 and got the rewards like those systems did while the other systems took the path of the N64/GC and are losing marketshare/money.  Still, Nintendo is being shunned by third parties.

I think we've been given a clear sign by third parties and the fans.  Fans will go to the cheaper system, but third parties just hate Nintendo.

That is the big issue.

For one thing, Capcom couldn't wait to port as many of their "exclusive" GC games to the PS2 as they could. Now the only return they've given so far to the Wii was because they wanted to fix the flaws in that game, NOT because they felt the system should have more support.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs