makingmusic476 said:
Kasz216 said:
makingmusic476 said:
jarrod said:
makingmusic476 said:
Why would the game sell better on Wii in Japan?
Tales of Graces and Sengoku Musou 3 didn't exactly light up the charts compared to Tales of Vesperia (a port), Shin Sangoku Musou 6, and Gundam Musou 2.
The fanbases for old popular Japanese ps2 franchises seems to be split, with the majority going to ps3. The only exception seems to be Monster Hunter, but the franchise's popularity has grown immensely over the past couple of years due to the success of the PSP titles.
If FFXIII had been announced from the getgo for Wii, things would probably be different, but you might as well call the Wii the ps3 if you're going to change that many variables. |
Graces got killed by FFXIII, no question. Had Vesperia PS3 switched release dates with it, they'd have probably switched sales numbers too. Pretty much no one expected it to sell what Symphonia KOR did.
Sengoku Musou 3 did pretty well though, and Sengoku tends to sell worse than Sangoku regardless. Even so, it's only 50k behind SSM5, which is better than usual for the series (SM2 was over 350k behind SSM4 on PS2).
And there's other PS2 series seeing equal success on Wii vs last gen besides Monster Hunter. Taiko no Tatsujin, DQ spinoffs, Biohazard Chronicles (versus Gun Survivor), Momotaru Dentetsu, Fatal Frame, etc. I'm betting expecting DQX equals or outsells DQVIII.
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Huh? It's 90k short of where SSM5 was at five weeks in, and 168k down overall.
http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?reg1=Japan&game1=Dynasty+Warriors+6+-+PS3[7695]®2=All&game2=Samurai+Warriors+3+-+Wii[37512]®3=Japan&game3=&weeks=69
And it fell short of the Gundam Musou series, a new Musou franchise that started with the ps3.
Also, Umbrella Chronicles has sold just more than half of what Resident Evil Outbreak sold in Japan, despite the latter being online-centric, something unusual for the series. The Chronicles series is besting the performance of Outbreak File #2, but that game was universally panned. It holds a 58 on Metacritic, and sold accordingly. As far as I know, those were the only Resident Evil spin-offs that changed up their gameplay drastically from the main series on ps2.
We don't seem to have any data for the Fatal Frame series in the database, so I can't really comment either way, but Fatal Frame IV was probably helped along by the fact that Nintendo was heavily involved in the fourth installment compared to the others. They published, funded, and oversaw development of the title.
I still hold to my original claim.
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You can... but you'd be wrong if you ask me.
The thing your missing is just how big Final Fantasy is. Additionally it's not an "RPG" persons game in Japan. It's ANYBODIES game. The kind of game that moves systems.
Bigger Userbase + Smaller entry price if you buy a console = bigger sales.
People just don't not buy Final Fantasy games in Japan unless they have a REALLY good reason. Likely the PS3's price was the barrier.
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I'd blame it more on the fact that you have to buy a second console at all. Last gen just about everybody had a ps2, so there was no worry in that regard. This gen that isn't the case. There is no single system that everbody has in Japan (aside from the DS lol), and you're gonna have people caught in the middle either way.
Just look at the sales of something like RE4 on the GameCube last gen. The GameCube was absurdly cheap by 2004, and the RE series had consistantly sold millions in Japan up until that point, but the GC version barely broke 200k. A year late port to ps2 ended up selling more. Peopel weren't even willing to fork over the $100 for a GC.
It's not about price. It's about having to buy an extra console at all. You have your diehard fans (50k bought a ps3 simply for the DEMO of FFXIII), but most people aren't like that. With Final Fantasy XIII, you'd have been looking at spending an extra $200+ regardless of which system you owned and which system you had to buy.
By this point in the ps2's life it had sold well over 12 million in Japan alone, and I assume a large portion of that 3 million or so that haven't bought Wiis bought ps3s, which is why games sell so well on ps3 in comparison to Wii despite the install base discrepancy. These people would've had to fork over the cash for a Wii had the situation been reversed. Would they have done it?
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Yeah. Of course, more would then who purchased the PS3 in anycase.
Additionally, 3 million is 3 million... vs 9 Million. For one of the biggest franchises in Japan.
over 12 million PS2's sold at this point. VS about 15 million PS3+Wii's sold.
Even if you assume everyone who had a PS3 had a PS2 and there is no cross console ownership, that leaves the Wii with 2/3rds the PS2's market share.
Something your overlooking is that the Wii has more games, and developed more new franchises. Users can only spend so much money on so much product. Final Fantasy is not a series that would have to worry about the emergence of the new Wii series.
Wii sells more games per user then the PS3 in Japan. The real for the third parties is that the Wii audience is more divided due to new expierences.
Things like Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit and Super Mario Brothers Wii and such are going to take away from your midline franchises. Not Final Fantasy.
