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All this talk of win is kind of silly. Neither format will ever really win. Blu-ray will be more successful but it will never even come close to competing with DVD so could hardly be called a win. The general public just don't care about HD video. The jump from dvd quality just doesn't justify the jump in price. And that's all there really is to it. Better picture and better sound but for much more price (not to mention price of buying a HD tv). With video to dvd not only did you get a massive jump in picture and sound quality (much more than that from dvd to video) you also didn't have to do with rewinding and forwarding and the tape wearing off after watching a few times. HD has no hope. Only a very small proportion of people would pay £20 per movie for slightly increased picture quality and sound quality when dvds are selling for £5. DVD is here to stay and blu ray and HD DVD ain't got much hope. there are too many dvd players out there for either HD disc format to ever be truly successful