What is gametrailers problem with the wii?

[Mr Khan]

tuscaniman said:

Mr Khan said:

tuscaniman said:

 

I've been a gamer since the Atari 2600 days and I think I have a pretty good grasp on what consoles are great and what franchises are great. Nintendo, SNES, and even parts of the Nintendo 64 were great consoles with awesome gaming franchises. New concepts and stories were brought to the table. PS1, PS2 did the same thing. Now that I'm in my 6th generation of gaming I greatly enjoy the 360. I actually believe the 360 quite possibly has the best game library or equal game library out of any console I've played or owned, all the way back to the Atari days. I haven't played the PS3 and I am intrigued by it and might buy one in the future. Sony and Microsoft have been playing a game of one up on each other the past couple generations and it has resulted in great new franchises and games that have pushed the evolution of gaming. I've played the Wii (my gf had one until she sold it for lack of replay value) and it has not grown up. If  you believe otherwise thats fine with me but myself and almost every other non Nintendo fanboy realizes the Wii is a casual gamer's machine. Adding motion control does not make this the next evolution of gaming. The games themselves do and Nintendo has not put out games of equal quality as the HD machines.

You have a grasp on what franchises you think are great. The games that you think are evolutionary i might find shallow, or vice versa. Why should consoles "grow up" specifically to match your growth as an individual? This is the peculiar mentality that pervades the industry, and has led to its current state, where they've left behind a large, large number of former players.

I think you're missing the point. 120 million + gamers from PS2 days and the 20 million + gamers from the Xbox were not left behind. They will eventually get into this generation of consoles and their console of choice will be the 360 or the PS3. The Wii has managed to find a niiche in the gaming market and have catered to the casual and sold to audiences who have never been targeted before. Not a gaming audience from the past. This is why you are seeing games like Wii fit being advertised nonstop. If you honestly think Nintendo is trying to cater to the gamer and push AAA quality games out to win then you are fooling yourself. Nintendo is out to make money like the rest of us and they found their gold mine by catering to the casual. The HD twins are catering to the gamer and last gen's gamer is split between either one or hasn't jumped in. Combine the HD twins sales and you have a console which has sold more than the Wii.

Now I agree that there are some old school gamers who prefer the classic franchises and game styles and their simple mechanics and have went the direction of the Wii, but they are few and far between and the casual market is the Wii's target.

1: All 120 million PS2 players are not going to go for either PS3 or 360. Many have gone to Wii, a great many, i would bet. PS2 succeeded because it had the variety to cater to more than just the "gamer," and it's illusory to think that the bulk of the gaming audience, even the bulk of the audience on PS3 and 360, really cares about a lot of the same things that you do.

2: Your argument has been made before, by others, that Wii has found a "niche," when really its rather the opposite. Wii has found the mainstream

3: It's a phenomenon called Gamer Drift, and it is real. The gaming industry got caught up in the graphical arms race, and many of the gamers who played long ago were left behind. This is not the sign of a healthy, growing industry, just one that's trying to stay afloat.