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tuscaniman said:

I think you're missing the point. 120 million + gamers from PS2 days and the 20 million + gamers from the Xbox were not left behind. They will eventually get into this generation of consoles and their console of choice will be the 360 or the PS3. The Wii has managed to find a niiche in the gaming market and have catered to the casual and sold to audiences who have never been targeted before. Not a gaming audience from the past. This is why you are seeing games like Wii fit being advertised nonstop. If you honestly think Nintendo is trying to cater to the gamer and push AAA quality games out to win then you are fooling yourself. Nintendo is out to make money like the rest of us and they found their gold mine by catering to the casual. The HD twins are catering to the gamer and last gen's gamer is split between either one or hasn't jumped in. Combine the HD twins sales and you have a console which has sold more than the Wii.

Now I agree that there are some old school gamers who prefer the classic franchises and game styles and their simple mechanics and have went the direction of the Wii, but they are few and far between and the casual market is the Wii's target.

What makes you think their console of choice will be the 360 or PS3? What if they already bought a Wii, or don't want to buy any system at all? This magical army of 140 million people coming to the rescue of Microsoft and Sony, if they cared that much, wouldn't they have bought the system already? This whole line of argument just doesn't make any sense, there's no merit to it because you're going to have an incredibly hard time demonstrating in any real way that 140,000,000 people, or even 10% of that number have any desire to buy any console, let alone one of the HD twins.

Also, since when is the fastest selling console in history a niche? Isn't that, like, the textbook definition of mainstream? The majority? I mean hell WiiFit has sold more than the top 4 PS3 games combined, if anything the HD twins and all their games have been relegated to the niche.

Combining consoles makes for some tricky logic juggling, because you have no clue how many people own both systems, or own a Wii+1 or 2 other systems. What if 90% of the people who own a PS3 also own a 360, doesn't that cut your mighty army in half?

Good god man, you're on a site with sales figures, how can you look at all those sales figures and not realize that PS360 gaming is the niche?