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Mr Khan said:
tuscaniman said:

I've been a gamer since the Atari 2600 days and I think I have a pretty good grasp on what consoles are great and what franchises are great. Nintendo, SNES, and even parts of the Nintendo 64 were great consoles with awesome gaming franchises. New concepts and stories were brought to the table. PS1, PS2 did the same thing. Now that I'm in my 6th generation of gaming I greatly enjoy the 360. I actually believe the 360 quite possibly has the best game library or equal game library out of any console I've played or owned, all the way back to the Atari days. I haven't played the PS3 and I am intrigued by it and might buy one in the future. Sony and Microsoft have been playing a game of one up on each other the past couple generations and it has resulted in great new franchises and games that have pushed the evolution of gaming. I've played the Wii (my gf had one until she sold it for lack of replay value) and it has not grown up. If  you believe otherwise thats fine with me but myself and almost every other non Nintendo fanboy realizes the Wii is a casual gamer's machine. Adding motion control does not make this the next evolution of gaming. The games themselves do and Nintendo has not put out games of equal quality as the HD machines.

You have a grasp on what franchises you think are great. The games that you think are evolutionary i might find shallow, or vice versa. Why should consoles "grow up" specifically to match your growth as an individual? This is the peculiar mentality that pervades the industry, and has led to its current state, where they've left behind a large, large number of former players.

Perhaps because those players allow themselves to continue being blinded by Mario and Zelda and anything that has their names on it? Ninty being first has hurt it more than help it, whereas 360 and PS3 being 2nd and 3rd have been forced to create new IP's. Resistance, Gears of War, Uncharted, InFamous, Demon's Souls, VC, etc, etc,etc. I mean shit SE suffered a similar problem by milking FFVII. The good attempts that were made for Wii have sold less than stellar like NMH (met expectations but given install base should have sold way more), Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Madworld. Former players are still stuck with Mario and Zelda and that is a fact, and it is a sad one just like it's sad for Halo fans to know nothing else but Halo. Go try some of the games I mentioned in previous posts, especially the NES ones, you might like them and realize there is light at the end of the Mario/Zelda/Metroid tunnel.



Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)

I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/  hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.