FKNetwork said:
vlad321 said:
FKNetwork said:
I've used Steam more than enough over the last 2-3 years to know how it performs and what it offers (not much at all), but then again it's the best on offer for the pc that offers a universal all in one community like PSN and Xbox Live do, as I said before both the PSN and Live are in another league from Steam, they both leave Steam in the dust.
For example, I was playing Team Fortress 2 on Steam over the "Free" weekend last week, the whole steam system is sooo slow at finding games and joining them (i'm on a 24mb connection, xbox live, psn and other online pc games are very fast for me), you have to start up Steam, wait for it to update, restart Steam, then load the actual game from within Steam, then look for the server list, find one that actually responds or isn't full, you finally find one then you have to wait for it to download the map (if you haven't played that map before), 5 minutes later you actually get to play by which time a lot of the players have left or the game mode or map has changed again.
The "Free" weekend actually put me off buying Team Fortress 2 even at the half price £6.99, a complete sham compared to some of the FPS's on PSN and Xbox Live.
On Live and PSN you just start your game pick multiplayer and your in a match and playing within 30 seconds, it is simple and easy, you also get a far better feature set on both live and psn than you do on steam, plus you get to have a laugh with your mates as most of the people on live and psn use mics!
So yeah, say what you want but sticking up for steam like you do makes you look desperate lol
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The bolded is hy Steam is better than LIVE. It auto updates for you. The server browser is something far far better than any matchmaking in LIVE. You pick your server your players and most importantly youor mods and latency. You don't have those options on LIVE. In fact just about any game is better online than any LIVE game simply because you can pick choose your latency and mods, something LIVE can't even begin to touch.
So on LIVE I pay $50 bucks I start up the game and I end up with what is considered good ping with full bars, turns out "good ping" on LIVE means about 150ms. I mean seriously? That's just pathetic. I can't even pick any mods or custom maps on LIVE and PSN. That is what's really pathetic. Also voice chat is the WORST thing to happen to games ever. I don't need to be called a fag by little kids who are insecure and suck so bad they can't even get a kill. Join any UT2004 game and there is almost no talking until the end of the match. Oh yeah that's another bonus, immature people who like to whine, LIVE is entirely too full of them, and most of them are dumber than bricks.
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^LOL, have a read over what you just wrote, it just comes across that you HATE console gaming no matter what and your all upset because console gaming is more popular than pc gaming, and yup, that is your choice but it doesn't mean everyone will agree with you, there are millions and millions of people out there that prefer gaming on consoles than pc's online and offline,your in the minority with your views and you know you are, that is why you get your back up so easily.
And voice chat on consoles is superb, I don't have any problems with litle kids screaming at me, maybe they just didn't like you, not surprising really if this is how you come across on a forum, imagine real life, wow!
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See, but it hass been proven that majority != right, time and time again. If you are going by the majority then Mario is far better than anything you have on LIVE. The truth is that everything is extremely dumbed down on consoles jsut like people from LIVE complain that Wii games are dumbed down. Ironic really.
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I don't know but I haven't seen too many clan dedicated servers. I know about auto-updating, I didn't say it didn't exist. UT3 on the PS3 actually supports honest to god mods, however you still have to have a PC to make those mods. If it was only on consoles then theywouldn't have been able to support mods, you need the PC. The lag issue is simply not true, consoles have thoroughly higher average latency than a PC. Take L4D for example, even with dedicated servers there, people complain about getting over 100 ping, and that's with dedicated servers and all. Imagine what the pings are on the non-dedicated LIVE games, and who knows about all the other types of games.
Truth is that the only benefit that LIVE has is that it's ubiquitous across every LIVE. However when it comes to features and services, you can't beat a good old PC, that's the benefit of an open platform.
