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Hus said:
jarrod said:
Hus said:
jarrod said:
 

360 doesn't need a savior, it's been successful enough and significantly improved the Xbox business already.  It's already a "win" for Microsoft.

 

Not according to many 360 owners on here, natal will sky rocket 360 past PS3. 

Getting out sold by the PS3 would be looked as a big failure on MS part, released first always had a price advantage. 

360 improved on Xbox by about every metric, and actually looks like it may finish out it's cycle not in the red.  Honestly, I don't see how 360 can be plausibly spun anything but a victory for MS.  They're just coasting at this point.

Cause they ran their mouth how PS3 will never out sale the 360, like Turn Ten they should learn to stfu sometimes.  So if PS3 out sales them does what MS said it would never do.  Then its a failure.  In the Hd battle they came out first, were cheeper have the easier to program for console.  According to them the console power is even they have the best online ever.

Logically they should win.  If they don't its a failure.

Original xbox did not set the bar very high, surpassing it means very little.

lol.  Maybe we should dredge up some old Kutaragi, Harrison and Trenton quotes to decide if PS3 can be considered anything other than an abject failure?

Back in 2005/2006, 360 was assured pretty much anything but "victory".   They had the less powerful HD console, they lacked 3rd party killer apps like FF/MGS/DMC/Tekken/etc, their 1st party program was shrinking, they stuck with a last gen format (DVD), RROD was getting tons of coverage and they weren't coming off the most successful console in history (PS2) with the most popular brand in gaming to that point (PlayStation).  360 "logically" was supposed to win?  Are you high?