50Hz LCD's are HORRIBLE!

[ZenfoldorVGI]

Words Of Wisdom said:

ZenfoldorVGI said:

NNN2004 said:

 

the plasma is superior to the lcd but i dont know why people prefer lcd ? is it because of the old burn issue ? 

I'm sorry bro, but you're dead wrong. So are a LOT of people in this thread though, lol.

For gaming, besides the burnin factors(which still exist even on Veria) Plasma's have this thing called phosphor trailing. Green phosphors age slower than red or blue, and during fast scenes(videogaming) you tend to get ugly green trails behind your light sources. It's terrible.

Again, Plasma's are not made for gaming. Especially gaming which requires black bars, as repeatedly washing out burn-in can cause permanent damage to your set.

On top of that, the newest LCD's(LN52B750) have black levels better than all but the best Plasma sets(as blacks in plasmas are not absolute black despite their ability to turn off individual screen areas).

Besides that, Plasma's are generally dimmer than LCD, they certainly use much more electricity, and cause higher heat output. Though they are cheaper and have much better viewing angle, and depending on the TV, can have better picture quality at the top end of the spectrum.

Plasma technology is dying for a reason, and in general Plasma's are not made for gaming, watching movies or TV with black bars, or for use as a computer monitor. Watching true aspect ratio BR or playing PS2 games on your Plasmas will lead to burn-in and overtime, can reduce the PQ of your set. However, the worst offense is the eventual phosphor trailing which is absolutely unacceptable to any gamer who can see it.

When it comes to Plasma TVs, Zen is still stuck in 2005.

Please, no one listen to him.

Please, no one listen to the only AV nerd in the thread who owns a brand new Veria, and realizes that even the 2009 Pannys(like mine) still have issues with phosphor trailing, and all Plasma's still have problems with burnin, they just incorporate counter measures which themselves, often damage your set over time.

Man, out of all the ignorance in this thread, and there is a TON, the basic premise of using the amp to improve gaming is completely ignorant, you point out one of the ONLY valid posts and tell people not to listen to it, WTF bro?

The truth is, explaining television technology is very complex, and nearly impossible to bullet point.

With LCD, you have to deal with issues in screen uniformity. Clouding and flashlighting and the most prominant, but also viewing angle, black levels, and a few other issues. However, Veria(really the only plasma that anyone should buy in 2009 for under 2000 bucks) also has issues, like, I dunno, glare, phosphor trailing(already reported by many gamers), screen brightness, energy usage(still pretty high). For all intents and purposes, the LN52B750 is still a better(though more expensive) option for gamers. Great screen uniformity, deep blacks with only a small crushing issue. 2ms latency, no burn-in(though all LCD's can have image retention), super bright, no flashlighting(like the superthin series), 240hz true colors under 200 bucks.

The technology is debatable, the models available are too....just not as much. Whitewashing your screen over and over will reduce the half-life of your Plasma. Your Veria will burn-in just like all other plasmas do. Especially if you play games with BLACK BARS, and you will have to take counter measures(I burned in my Veria for the first 100 hours). Your Veria will eventually have phosphor trailing(and if you are a plasma fan, you might claim that you can't see it). Your TV is not made for static HUDs, and just because burn-in doesn't bother you doesn't mean it doesn't bother your set and your PQ for people who know what they're looking at.

For god sakes man, most people don't know that they have poor PQ. They think everything in HD looks great. They've never had a calibrated Veria or B7xx+ model Samsung LCD. Truth is Plasma vs LCD is very debatable, but there is NO DOUBT that LCD is more versatile and more suitable to gaming.

I am typing this through my gaming PC on a 52" samsung LCD. You can't use your Plasma as a computer monitor, because you will ruin it over time, that is now what it was meant for. If you care for it properly, you can game effectively on a Plasma, but that does not mean that a Plasma is meant for gaming. The technology has improved, but green phosphors still age differently than other colors. Burn-in still occours on Plasma monitors. Why should people not accept that? Where did you read that burn-in is no longer an issue for Plasma TVs and gamers? Who told you that?