Lolcislaw said:
vlad321 said:
Lolcislaw said:
vlad321 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
vlad321 said:
Not that I condone terrorism, far from it. But you do realize that the US was founded on terrorism, right? All I'm saying is that terrorism depends on the PoV. It's an effective way for a weak entity to fight a far far more powerful entity.
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Please elaborate.
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Let's start with something as simple as the Boston Tea Party. If that wasn't an act of terrorism then I don't know what it would be classified as. Then, in the beginning of the war, the revolutionaries used more or less tactics that "terrorists" in Iraq are currently using. That is, inflicting as much psychological and physical damage with the least amount of casualties. Only when the ground was a little more fair, still not too advantageous of the States, did true battles start and cheap tactics ended.
Of course, the history books from the US would never tell you that, bu that's to be expected. As I stated, terrorism depends on a person's Point of View.
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Thinking this way, every form of civil disobiedience for national reason or uprising can be seen as act of terrorism. I agree with majority of freedom fighters (the ones with realistic cause, and support of their people), people have a cardinal right to self determination.
What i dont agree is bunch of ridicilous religious loons, pissed off on a whole world because it is not shaped in the way they would want it.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. You say freedom fighters, they say terrorists.
Also I'm guessing that there are freedom fighters because they don't feel their world is not shaped the way they want it. Their inspiration was probably not religiously inspired, but the initiative remains.
I'm also willing to bet my left nut that if the religious fanatics in the US weren't fat and lazy they'd be right there killing Muslims, at least by the sound of it.
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But they dont, i dont like any form of religious extreme but they dont even use similar rhetoric, they dont spread hate of other people, nor they trying to blame everyone else for their situation.
And i agree "with one mans freedom fighter is another man's terrorist" but you cannot group all of them toghether.
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Watch Jesus Camp and come back and tell me that the fanatics in the US don't spread hate towards other people. Be prepared for a shock.
I can group all of them together easily. In fact, I just did. Just because you think some are different desn't change the fact that they are not. bjectively it always comes down to a smaller entity fighting a larger entity. That's it, not freedom fighters nor terrorists, but a smaller entity trying to gain more power by fighting a larger entity. Anything beyond that is your own subjective opinion, which is no more valid than the person who thinks of terroists as freedom fighters.
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