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Words Of Wisdom said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:

Sure, he made an exception to one game that fit his examples, but still he was generalizing. And its quite easy to do the same about WRPGs. Which I don't think he'd like people do be lumping Bioware games in with 'general WRPGs'.

Bioware and Black Isle basically created the "general WRPG" genre.  It's only in recent years thanks to games like Fable and Elder Scrolls has the focus shifted away from their creations and to something else.

Try Origin Systems with Ultima and Sir-Tech with Wizardry back in the 1980s.  These influenced both WRPGs and JRPGs such as Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy.

I played both and still have my Wizardry NES game.  Neither really took off IMO.  There was no explosion of RPGs thanks to those as there was around the time the Infinity Engine came into being.  Around that time you had Baldur's Gate, PST, Icewind Dale, Arcanum, Fallout 1&2, and a few more I'm sure I'm forgetting coming out.  More or less the golden age of PC RPGs.

...not really.  The 'Golden Age' of PC RPGs WAS back in the 1980s and early 90s.  Sales were smaller back then because there were less gamers.  But PC was still dominant over consoles.  In comparison, games like Ultima and Wizardry did very well for their time.  And I don't know how you can say they 'didn't take off' considering they are considered the originators of video game RPGs (and did spawn a number of successful successors such as Dungeon Master.

But the late 90s, Consoles were overtaking PC.  And WRPGs were being overtaken by Console RPGs.  Its only been recently that WRPGs have made a comeback, and only with the help of joint releases on consoles.

xlost4 said:
he isn't lying. the jrpg genre is dying and will suffer until some japanese developer take notice and bring in what the new market wants rather than what they want. the market is driven based on new. work with the wii and look who is the number one leading manufacturer (Nintendo).

Correction.  Until the good JRPGs are brought to America and heavily advertised.  What we get instead are the games that are all flash and no innovation.  Its only natural that people in America think JRPGs are stuck in a rut and have no innovation when the most heavily advertised JRPGs are stuff like Disgaea Port #4, Final Fantasy Sequel/Port/Remake #42 and Kingdom Hearts #8.  And all the good original RPGs from Japan either never come over here or come over and are never advertised.



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