Igarashi: DS the only platform in which it's acceptable to publish 2-D games

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Avinash_Tyagi said:

Khuutra said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:
Actually you can have diversity with 2D games, just look at the NES and SNES and handhelds, and only one 3D Zelda has ever passed 2D Zelda.

Its more profitable to make games 2D, you can have more diversity and more games out in a year with 2D, and sales will be on par or even better than 3D, so yeah 3D is pointless

Avinash, the first Zelda is not a proper metric here. It outsold every other 2-D Zelda by 30%, minimum. The 3D vs. 2D sales battle is roughly even, except that Twilight Princess tilts it in favor of 3D

  No OoT is the best argument for 3D, but TP proves the flaw in 3D Zelda, no 3D Zelda will ever equal OoT, but you can be sure TP was more expensive than OoT, and much more than LttP or LOZ 1, for less sales than LOZ 1 and only a bit more than LttP

You're speaking in extremes.  'No 3D Zelda will ever equal OoT.'  'OoT is the perfect argument for a 3D Zelda.'  There's no 'perfect' example of a 2D or 3D game.  See my post above.

Plus, Nintendo isn't the only developer out there.  And as such, Zelda isn't the only series out there that has both 2D and 3D games.  Look at the Metroid series.  It has seen upswings and downswings in its sales between multiple 2D and 3D titles.  And looking at Castlevania (which this thread originally was focused on since it was quoting IGA), the same phenomenon happened with certain titles seeing high sales and certain titles seeing low sales, in both the 2D and 3D field.  There's more factors at play beyond the simple cut and dry 2D and 3D genres.

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Khuutra said:
Avinash let me level this for you.

Do you think that 2-D is going to kill 3-D for Nintendo?

Here's what I think is going to happen, if Galaxy 2, Other M and Zelda Wii sales disappoint, then the next row of games will be 2D, if they do as well or better than the 3D games, then yeah I can see Nintendo putting 3D on the backburner, or even abandoning it, at least on certain franchises

Man, you really don't like 3D games, do you?  And do you have any faith in them at all?

All those games you mentioned are going to do fine.  And while they aren't going to sell as 'well' as say New Super Mario Bros Wii (which will probably sell 15-25 million or something ridiculous), they will sell quite fine.  They're not going to stop making 3D games.  Because they're targeting different audiences with each title.  They're making Mario Galaxy for one type of gamer while they're making New Super Mario Bros Wii for another type.  Do you understand that?

If they simply dropped all 3D development and only made games like New Super Mario Bros, 2D Metroids, 2D Zeldas and, heaven forbid, some kind of 2D Pikmin and Star Fox, etc....I'd be like what Disney did when they dropped all Cel drawn animation in favor of all CGI animation back in 2004.  And that's just stupid.  Nintendo makes multiple kinds of games to appeal to every available audience.  And its been proven that 'western' gamers enjoy 3D games such as Metroid Prime, the 3D Zeldas, and the 3D Mario games.

If they did what you're proposing, they'd be back pettling on the very concept of the Wii, to appeal to all available markets.  As well as lose out on the real 'core' market they have.