psrock said:
jarrod said:
psrock said:
jarrod said:
psrock said:
Gears is as first party as MGS4 is first party.
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That's pretty much nowhere near the case. Gears was 100% funded, promoted and published by Microsoft. They don't own the IP (somewhat shockingly, as that tends to be what happens when one funds, promotes and publishes a game), by they were involved in pretty much every step of the game's creation and even had some of their own R&D staff on it.
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Funding money to keep a game exclusive doesn't make it first party, and trust me I am pretty sure Sony paid money to keep this game as well. Gears 1 and 2 are a 3rd party game.
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It wasn't funded to keep it exclusive, it was funded to make it period. Without Microsoft, there wouldn't have been a Gears of War, they were there from day one. The game was made for them pretty much, the only difference between say this and PGR or Crackdown is that Microsoft settled for exclusivity rights and not full IP ownership.
MGS4 would've happened regardless of Sony, and they didn't even handle publishing, advertising or funding. It was all Konami, though Sony likely threw some heavy incentives their way to keep it exclusive.
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Again, these games are still 3rd party exclusives no matter how you see it.
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No, one was a first party product. The other wasn't. 3rd parties own the IPs and developed the titles, that's pretty much all they share in common.
