CGI-Quality said:
A_C_E said:
CGI-Quality said:
A_C_E said:
steverhcp02 said:
A_C_E said:
Some company's don't know how to move on to the next big thing. Sony isn't really doing anything revolutionary with their games in the online department and their marketing is way off. Their marketing for games sucks but now that they've found a sweet spot for the PS3 slim then maybe they'll find a sweet spot for their software as well but I doubt Sony will ever be able to sell very many 5 mil sellers for the rest of this gen. |
I see lots of new successful IP's in the OP's list. That to me is the most important thing for a developer, especially a first party developer as a consumer.
Online is one aspect of development, but ill take good new IP's over 4 ratchet, games in 4 years with online play.
Also, lets not forget LBP, possibly the most revolutionary online game of this generation.
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Ok here, some company's as a whole don't know how to move on to the next big thing, although I do see the 'Play, Create, Share' genre becoming massive for this and next generation so I'll give them that but overall as a company they are just so linear. Sure they offer great games and great new IP's which are important for a company but look at how they are selling. Sony is no MS when it comes to marketing but I know they have it in them to sell large amounts of software, they just haven't been doing that at all. Their only major title I see selling over 5 mil is GT5 and after that...what? RFoM? It's franchise is already on decline. KZ? KZ2 Hasn't reached 3 mil yet. LBP2? 1st hasn't reached 3 yet. Uncharted of all semi-hardcore franchises that are geared more towards casuals most likely won't even make it to 4 mil yet it's one of the most highest rated games of all time in a genre that is known to sell in the 10's of millions. There's a major problem for Sony to overcome. They've got great software just not enough juice to squeeze, somethings missing.
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Tell me though, what franchise(s), outside of Gears and Halo, does Microsoft have that sell over 5mill? I keep hearing that Sony's games have a hrad tiime selling but then see no examples of 360 games that sell MUCH better?
- Crackdown - 1.52mill
- Fable II - 3.27mill
- PGR 4 - 1.85mill
- Left 4 Dead - 2.53mill
- Mass Effect - 2.10mill
Where are these HUGE selling 360 exclusives again? As I said, they perform very mcuh like PS3 games:
- Uncharted 1 - 2.79mill
- LBP - 2.74mill
- Killzone 2 - 2.14mill
- Resistance 2 - 1.73mill
Now, where are the major differences again between many of these IPs, I'll tell you:
Gears of War: Deserves a commendation, it did EXCEPTIONAL for a new IP.
Halo: Brand Name alone will, sell 5-6mill of these.
Gran Turismo: Look at the Prologue.
Take away the big guys and you have fracnhises that sell comparable #s on both. I think this idea that PS3 games "underperform" and 360 games sell so well is quite deluded.
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I'm not directly comparing MS to Sony so much as Sony to Sony. The only comparison I have made towards MS is the marketing division which MS takes the take no doubt. MS doesn't need many first party titles to sell over 5 mil because they already have two franchises that are 'guaranteed' 5 mil sellers with each release, the ones you posted, Gears and Halo. But that's not the point I'm getting at. What I'm trying to figure out is why Sony just let's these amazing games get not even half the sales they deserve? Like I said, the PS3 has a problem when not even it's two biggest highly rated FPS's can't even top 4 mil, it's pathetic. They have to build towards a great online community where they ship their PS3's with mics and they have x-game chat and have an online experience unmatched by all, all in one FPS game. This is why Halo is so big today but Sony as a company just doesn't know how to pick up on these things. Sony as a company is so very linear and spend more time catching up then they do inventing, which is too bad because they have IMO the best line-up of 2010 but they won't get the sales they deserve.
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I love this talk of "invention". People love to forget the innovative games that Sony releases. Oh well..............
OT: Either way, the same could be said of 360 games, that are amazing, that don't get higher sales. I'm saying it's a redundant arguemt, and just because something doesn't sell 5mill, which most 360 IPs don't do either, doesn't mean it sold "bad/pathetic/underperformed", whatever you'd like to call it.
The 360 has ONE more IP than Sony that sells 5mill. Some of you act as if Sony's IPs all sell FAR lower than it's closest competitor, which is quite laughable given the data.
Fact remains, Gears was the one nobody saw coming. Halo we knew would do gangbusters. Sony's biggest IP has yet to release it's next full iteration, and judging by past PlayStation consoles/franchises, PS3 games sell comparably.
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