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CGI-Quality said:
WilliamWatts said:

I never said the games underperformed anywhere, I don't understand where you're getting this idea from? Is it from other people inside this topic?

Is the concept of comparing the top 20 general releases with the top 20 Sony releases and looking for trends in the placement of different titles not a good one? 

Since you're keen to go down that path I did a check of the top 10 Microsoft published games (these are all exclusives right?) 

  1. Halo 3
  2. Gears of War
  3. Gears of War 2
  4. Forza Motorsport 2
  5. Halo ODST
  6. Fable 2
  7. Mass Effect
  8. Project Gotham Racing 4
  9. Halo Wars
  10. Forza Motorsport 3

I think only three of them lack local multiplayer and they are Fable 2, Mass Effect and Halo Wars. Two of them also lack any significant online play and they are Fable 2 and Mass Effect from what I can gather from Wikipedia. None of the top 5 lack either local or online multiplayer. I think Halo 3 must have been bundled with every Xbox 360 in the U.S.A. because the sales there are silly compared to what Vgchartz calls the 'others' region so I guess that sort of should get taken into account. The further down the list you go the more likely the game seems to be completely single player in nature.

So does this not support my concept that Sony may have been better off if more of their big releases had both online and offline multiplayer modes? I feel I must repeat to make myself clear here that im not saying that the games underperformed on Sony's side at all. Im saying that more people might have instead purchased or kept ahold of their copies of games Sony personally released instead of trading or renting. 

Well, since this seems to be the basis of your thread, I'll deal with it directly. I think your conclusion could be right or wrong. Of course the only way to know for sure is for Sony to release more games with features you mentioned. I apologize for the confusion with you, but it's just how your point came out.

Forgive me for feeling a little disapointed that our lengthy discussion came to this. But thanks anyway.

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"Youre right in your assessment...probably i dont know to be honest.

But the most important thing to those games on the list are the franchises. 3 Halo games, 2 Gears games, 2 Forza games, 2 PGR games. The sales correlation is in regards to existing IP's sans ME and Gears 1. All the others had userbases on the origina Xbox.

Your argument, as its carried out, shows its franchise correlation not this online/local multiplayer stab in the dark for sales comparisons."

Does it matter that the games had a previous incarnation on another system? There seem to be a lot of franchises like LBP, Uncharted, Resistance Fall of Man which sold quite well without having a previous version to draw instant recognition from. Also many of the franchises which seem to correlate well with my theory are available on all systems, and many had their roots on the PS2.