| mrstickball said: I'm an ID'er/Creationist. Now, having said that, it really comes down to the fact that I don't subscribe to the notion that evolution caused 100% of everything we see and know. Most of my qualms with evolution come down to - Creation of the universe - how did the matter come into being that created everything we know? Maybe I haven't read up enough, but I haven't found a solid argument concerning how matter even came into being (since that does go against the law of conservation) - Creation of organic matter - how did matter make the switch from the inorganic into organic? Is this even an observable thing that we can define through empirical study? Just me though. You can believe in evolution to a point (and I agree with a decent bit of it), but there is certainly a point that it will have a major effect on your worldview - either for or against the idea of an entity being involved in the process. |
To address your two points, neither of them are meant to have anything to do with the theory of evolution I'm afraid. Don't worry, this is a common misconception about evolution, people believe it tries to explain everything, from the point the universe came about, to organic molecules being created, to pretty much everything. Evolution is only supposed to tackle how one organism can evolve over time into another one.
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Either way I'll attempt to address your two points.
Your first point, the creation of the universe. My view is that the evidence that supports the big bang is so overwhelming like...
- Redshift measurements proving Hubble's law - Redshift measurements of galaxies proved that space is expanding, if it is continually expanding then if you work back then logically there has to be a point where it was a singularity.
- CMBR measurements - Cosmic background radiation, very shortly after the Universe came to be photons were created and destroyed rapidly, then the process stopped. The left over photons can be monitored in the microwave section of the electromagnetic spectrum. This is, in part, what makes an un-tunued TV hiss.
- Galactic evolution - The further we look into space the less evolved the galaxies we observe are. Logically the less evolved they are the further back in time you are looking. We now observe early objects in space that are 13Billion+ years old.
As for the matter point I believe that reading around topics like gravitational fluctuations may hold some answers for you.
Personally though I don't see the big bang as infringing on the idea of a creator in any kind of way. If I was a theist, I think I would take the big bang as just a method of creation.
Your second point about organic matter. Again this isn't meant to be covered by evolution. This is however covered by abiogenesis, which is still formed mainly of hypotheses, therefore it hasn't had conclusive studies done as of yet; Although evidence supporting it is fairly abundant, a quick google would answer a lot of questions.
But the gist of it is that amino acids can form via natural chemical reactions, these in turn formed proteins and so on and so forth until it became life. Chemistry is not my thing though so I can't explain it well, perhaps this video will do better...
(Oh and in that video he mentions this video called "ever seen a dog turn into a cat" it is a brilliant video, I often use it as an example to show what macro evolution is when the "macro micro argument comes up" it's worth watching link)
