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But we arent argueing that HVD is a cd based technology, we were argueing that Blu-ray is or is not an HVD type technology. Sure in the end it is all optical media but again thats not what the arguement was. Blu-ray has no hologaphic data layer, only mulitple metal layers, it only has one laser as well. And yeah the modifies everything, they has to up the drive motor for faster spinning speeds, the had to add 2 additional lasers, and had to up the power supply within to accommodate the highe powered green lasers. The only thing left over that even resembles the blu-ray drive is the disc tray and the blue laser they are using.