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joeorc on 11 December 2009
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Vetteman94 said:
joeorc said:
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And how expensive will those be in 2012 when, yes, Blu-Ray will have a significant install base and a lot of people will be invested in it?  Will it be time for people to upgrade by then?  Who knows, but I'm thinking no.  Whatever is next will be the true niche high-quality disc, because by then digital download will be much more developed, and can deliver higher quality.  Who knows, maybe some afficianados will jump at them, but to me, I don't see much market for resolutions above 1080p/lossless audio if the discs cost more.

I challenge you to come up with a coherent explanation of why people wouldn't move to higher quality Blu-Ray but WILL move to even higher quality holographic.  Especially when HDTVs only go up to 1080p.  And people even say that unless you have a big set, you don't even need 1080p.  Nope, holographic disc movies will always, always be niche compared to Blu-Ray.  It's an open question whether studios will even produce movies on them. 

 

That's actually my point.  Blu Ray will really have until 2014, because holographic storage will likely be too expensive in 2012.  Blu Ray might havea significant install base, but it might not.  If Blu Ray doesn't, then I think people will be ready for something significantly better than Blu Ray.  We are talking an order of magnitude better than Blu Ray.  Blu Ray is not a whole order of magnitude better than DVD.

I'll admit there is a good chance that Blu Ray will reach 50% market share, and if it does, it will be difficult for a new format.  However, if DVD still has 50% market share by 2014, I think Blu Ray could be pinched into being a niche in-between technology.

lol..I just have to bring up the point.

you do know that Blu-Ray is also an HOLOGRAPHIC disc based technology!

it's over.

if anything the last mainstream optical format for movies will be based on the core technology of disc based format's of DVD

Blu-Ray player's still play DVD's, and what if ever optical format replaces Blu-Ray will still be based on the core technology of DVD, AND STILL PLAY both DVD AND Blu-Ray disc's.

That's if EVER. 

IT'S A MOOT POINT BLU-RAY will never take over DVD

because it was not designed too from the start it was designed to Absorb DVD. the same May happen to Blu-Ray way later down the road

the optical format's still play VCD's, CD's.

its the very same core technology that keep's the other Viable and it make's sure the new technology stay's the standard for year's to come.

So

to keep the point , DVD is going to remain , Blu-ray is going to remain an CD is going to remain

Thus, Blu-ray does not have to "HURRY" up and take over DVD because it WILL Replace DVD anyway because Blu-Ray is also a DVD

BLU-RAY IS ALSO A FORM OF DVD.

IT WAS DESIGNED TO ABSORB DVD RIGHT FROM THE GET GO...NOT REPLACE IT.

because DVD is a standard that there is no need to replace., you just need to make DVD better

and that is what Blu-Ray is a better DVD format.

thus Since ALL BLU-RAY PLAYER'S STILL PLAY THE DVD FORMAT.

BLU-RAY HAS ALREADY DONE WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO FROM THE GET GO.


Blu-ray is not a holographic disc based technology.  Holographic discs uses multiple lasers, I think only 2 currently, focused into one laser to read the disc.   Blu-ray players and readers only have one laser from start to finish.   I would comment on the rest of your post but none of it makes any sense.

umm, yes it is. Its 

as a matter of fact:

HVD is not the only technology in high-capacity, optical storage media. InPhase Technologiesis developing a rival holographic format called Tapestry Media, which they claim will eventually store 1.6 TB with a data transfer rate of 120 MB/s, and several companies are developing TB-level discs based on 3D optical data storage technology. Such large optical storage capacities compete favorably with the Blu-ray Disc format. However, holographic drives are projected to initially cost around US$15,000, and a single disc around US$120–180, although prices are expected to fall steadily.[4] The market for this format is not initially the common consumer, but enterprises with very large storage needs.

he Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) is an optical disc technology that, in the future, may hold up to 1PB (petabyte) of information, although the current maximum is 10TB. It employs a technique known as collinear holography, whereby two green laser beams are collimated in a single beam. The green laser reads data encoded as laser interference fringes from a holographic layer near the top of the disc. A Blue laser is used same as Blu ray as the reference beam to read servoinformation from a regular CD-style aluminum layer near the bottom. Servoinformation is used to monitor the position of the read head over the disc, similar to the head, track, and sector information on a conventional hard disk drive. On a CD or DVD this servoinformation is interspersed amongst the data.

A dichroic mirror layer between the holographic data and the servo data reflects thegreen laser while letting the red laser pass through. This prevents interference from refraction of the green laser off the servo data pits and is an advance over past holographic storage media, which either experienced too much interference, or lacked the servo data entirely, making them incompatible with current CD and DVD drive technology.[1] These discs have the capacity to hold up to 6  (TB) of information. The HVD also has a transfer rate of 1 Gbit/s (125 MB/s). Sony, Philips, TDK, Panasonic and Optware all plan to release 1 TB capacity discs in 2019 while Maxell plans one for early 2020 with a capacity of 500 GB and transfer rate of 20 MB/s—although HVD standards were approved and published on June 28, 2007, no company has released an HVD as of November 2009.

 

As of August 2009, the HVD Forum comprised these corporations:

Some members of the Blu-ray Disc Association

 

On December 9, 2004 at its 88th General Assembly the standards body Ecma International created Technical Committee 44, dedicated to standardizing HVD formats based on Optware's technology. On June 11, 2007, TC44 published the first two HVD standards:[5] ECMA-377,[6] defining a 200 GB HVD "recordable cartridge" and ECMA-378,[7] defining a 100 GB HVD-ROM disc. Its next stated goals are 30 GB HVD cards and submission of these standards to the International Organization for Standardization for ISO approval.[8]

[9] New High Definition Video Technologies Road Map (2004-2010) From Maxell Corporation of America

 

AN I hope this can end this Debate About Holographic unseating Blu-Ray anytime soon

if anyone still think's HVD can anytime soon.

 please get it through your head

IT's over

HVD, digital downloads, or any other technology in the near future are not going to unseat Blu-Ray for the near future

the full CE companies all support Blu-Ray

the Entire Movie industry support's Blu-Ray

and Blu-Ray still support's standard DVD

IT'S OVER WITH AND DONE

BLU-RAY IS THE WINNER!

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.