LordTheNightKnight said:
jarrod said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jarrod said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jarrod said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jarrod said:
I'd prefer not ranking factors, it seems like an effort in futility. I do feel pretty safe saying were NSMBWii not a Mario branded game though, with all that brings with it, it would be selling a small fraction what it is...
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That's brand recognition, not nostalgia.
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In (New) Super Mario Bros. case, it's both. Again, nostalgia is in the game's DNA, from the brand to the gameplay to the marketing. You can't get away from it.
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Again, I didn't claim nostalgia was not a factor, so the DNA comment is irrelevant (why repeat a comment I didn't even deny, and explictly stated I wasn't). The point is to think it's the main thing selling the game, and that a game with solid platforming and content can't sell such a game (not in those humbers, duh) on the home systems now.
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Well again, I never claimed it was "main" sales driver either, I'm saying there is no "main" sales driver but nostalgic appeal is central to NSMB in pretty much all respects (design, sales, etc). I don't get exactly what you're disagreeing with, we seem to agree here then?
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Not crucial. That's my point. The point is that it has the same gameplay that made the past 2D games hits. That is not nostalgia. That's repeating something that worked big time before. It's the solid pick up and play action that you can't do in the 3D Mario games.
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Actually, featuring "the same gameplay that made the past 2D games hits" is fundamentally tied into nostalgia. What do you think nostalgia is exactly?
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You're not seeing the difference. Nostalgia is thinking fondly of something in the past. It's actually nostaglia that makes some think this kind of game is archaic, since they are thinking of what they liked before and seeing this negatively through that filter.
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You're attaching a negative connotation that isn't inherent though. Nostalgia is simply positive reflection on the past, nothing more. New Mario playing like Old Mario applies pretty directly in terms of appeal (and undoubtedly sales) here...
