Why do people vote for Hilary and Obama?

[elprincipe]

Final-Fan said:

 

I only used Ron Paul as the subject of a counterexample of your attack. Portraying the Democratic agenda as even socialist is laughable, and trying to imply that it's advancing towards communism is just stupid. That was the strawman I referred to. And if that's not what you were trying to say, then why did you even mention it? Not even really communist regimes like China, Vietnam, and the former USSR stuck to 100% government control. And much of the hardships people in communist countries faced was due to the brutality and incompetence of the regimes in question rather than communism itself. (Don't mistake that for a defense of communism!)

If government stopped supporting airlines, they would fail. FAIL. They're too greedy and incompetent to do otherwise, unless they jacked up the price so high the industry would be reduced to a shadow of its former self before it reached a capitalist equilibrium. Maybe you're OK with that -- in which case I respect you a little more for sticking to your ideological guns -- but that is irrelevant to and doesn't change the fact that airline service in the US was more punctual, courteous, and all-around better before privatization. At least, that's what I've heard; I'm not old enough to testify to that personally.

The Democratic Party's agend is certainly socialist.  They want to socialize 1/8+ of the economy in health care, and they want a lot of other socialist-leaning laws passed as well.  This is hardly news.

And you prove my point by mentioning the USSR, China and Vietnam because the attempts at communism there failed almost immediately because the system doesn't work in real life.  In theory, yes, sounds like everyone would be fat and happy, but in real life it just does not work, at all.  The hardships faced were because of brutal regimes, yes, but also because of a system that is inherently broken outside of theory and philosophy.

If the airlines failed, so be it.  If people don't want to finance air travel, fine.  I have no problem with that.  They will either find another way to travel or decide not to travel.  I don't care either way.  Let the market decide.  Similarly, don't collect more/less in gas taxes than you use to fund roads.