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pastro243 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
@Pearljammer Problem with that as I pointed out, is no one has played every game ever, but people can tell that some games aren't going to be fun or good, I don't need to play Uncharted to know that I won't find it fun or engaging, seeing someone else playing it was enough for me to decide.

Secondly, I don't view gaming as art, I view it as entertainment pure and simple, trying to turn it into art is a pretension I don't care for.

A game can have other factors, but they shouldn't detract from the game, this is what happens in most cinematic games these features just pull one away, why do you think most people get bored with cutscenes and excessive dialogue in games.

Movies are a different medium than games, people try to compare and converge them, but I think that's a bad idea, the whole way a person relates to a movie vs a game is completely different, you don't control things in a movie like you do in games.


entertainment evolves into art, the same has been true for music and movies, to try to keep gaming away from art is turning it in something irrelevant. If music and movies were just entertainment, we wouldnt have J.S. Bach or great movies and we would just have pop music(or less elaborated music) and movies like Scary movie, both fun, but bad.


  All your examples of entertainment are passive, music, movies, we don't interact with them, this is where games are different, so you just can't say they became art so gaming can be art.



 

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