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joshx said:
Farmageddon said:

Well, that's the point with games like Madworld, Muramasa, Little Kings Story, NMH, Zack and Wiki, Okami, etc. Some people will love them and regard them as amazing tittles, and many of those who don't personally like them but do have an objective critical sense will be able to see they are at least, I don't know, "well made", in a sense, while most people won't like these games because they just don't fit their tastes. That's kind of the definition of good niche games, so the fact that you don't like them is to be expected, I just don't think it would be fair to classify most of these as "crappy games".

Ok so you can me an excuse of everything and this happens more often by Nintendo Fans, i have been a nintendo fan since the NES, only having nintendo consoles until the ps2 i had it and sell it, because i love nintendo, but you got to get your head out of you asses, yes nintendo makes the greatest games with high production values and great charm but we Nintendo fans sometimes dont give an opportunity to others publishers or other games just because they don't have Mario, Zelda or Metroid in the box, i hate all this talk and no action if you hate publishers for not giving support for the console you and i love give them support to, yes i have nintendo titles but i give opportunity to some other publishers, just look at my profile yes i have the Marios and everything else but i look at other games before bashing or saying things like lazy and cheap production values.

You can say everything about a game and put in a genre let me start:

No More Heroes.....sandbox wanabbe GTA4 , low production values, no big developer and everything but it rocks.

Dead Space.......Rail Shotter, Sequel of a game we dont have , but the story,gameplay(even if it is a rail shotter) and atmosphere make for it.

Madworld......Graphics seem odd (Black and white with red), 6 hour lenght ... but it has style , good story and a big publisher behind it.

The conduit.....Boring style, everyday movie story(Government conspiracy),and unknown developer........ but it has good production values,grat graphics, and pasion.

 

For every No more heroes theres a Devil May Cry, for every Little Kings Story you have Katamari , yes those games came up with no fanfare and end up selling very good and all comes to the type of gamers each console has.

And i can continue for ever , what i trying to say just buy the good damned games and stop crying why dont you have the other console titles, and you can put every wii title you'll name in a niche category, thats an excuse and reflects that you don't contribute to the cause by not buying the games you mention.  Just buy other developers/publishers games  and stop crying.

First of all, I don't hate no third partie. You may not have noticed, but I was actually making the point that most of those games mentioned actually had a lot of quality to them, they just don't fit most people's tastes, and that's why some people love them while most people don't give a shit.

Also, you can't really compare NMH with DMC, for example, but most importantly, you can't expect that any game could have big sales with "no fanfare" just because a few did. Many don't. And that's besides the point, anyway, the appeal of the games is simply different. Also, why do you bring Katamari up? Did it sell that well?

And it's not like people are making this "niche game thing" up. Just look at Okami on the PS2. That's one example, there are many others.

Also, some games, which do have the values expected of a big selling game (or at least have more of those values) have sold well on Wii.

And, finally, I'm not "crying" and I do like most of these niche games. But even then, I don't expect them to sell amazing numbers anyway because of what they are. Your "attack" here makes no sense, really.