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LordChris915 on 02 December 2009
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coolbeans said:
LordChris915 said:
coolbeans said:
Tenkin said:
coolbeans said:
If the 360 released a year later with all of games that had come out since then, do you guys REALLY think the sales would be much different?


YES!!!

Sigh, seriously? Being the middle priced console with already a killer-app (Gears of War or even GRAW) released with-in the few months it came out would've probably made even more bad publicity for PS3 since it's first killer-app was a year+ later MGSIV (possibly Uncharted:DF).

You can't make games for a console that hasn't come out of development, your statement relies on the 360 having come out of development but not being on the market yet, MS would never do that (They launched early anyway), so if the PS3 and 360 game out of development at the same time and launched at the same time, they would have comparable games with comparable sales, there would be alot more multiplats.

The 360 may not have found as many PS2 owners coming their way what with the PS3 on the market, the PS3 has outsold the 360 since launch (http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php) regardless of the 360's early establishment in the market, so were both launched at the same time, it would be safe to say that the PS3 would be ontop.

"If the 360 released a year later with all of games that had come out since then" - It couldn't unless MS were prepared to keep their console off the market for a year (which developers would not like).

I'm just trying to drive the point which you seem to be missing.  Whether or not MS or dev's "like" having to hold out on development until 360 was launched is irrelevant, it's a straightforward question that needs no debunking (if you will).  If you wanna speculate what MS would/wouldn't do, you're barking up the wrong tree.  Instead try to answer the sales reasoning instead of the what MS would do reasoning.  You just said it could anyways only to have devs sour with them.  Since it could and does in my situation/question, do you think sales would be much different yes or no?

Edit: You're link is broken btw

Of course, because when devs get sour they stop giving you exclusive games and timed exclusives, they may even withdraw from the platform completely, we may never have seen Mass Effect or any JRPG's on the 360, wait a minute, strike that, We would NOT have seen ANY JRPG's on the 360 that MS didn't fork out BIG bucks for, the appeal to the eastern developers is that the 360 has the larger install base, with the install base below or at parity with the PS3, there would be VERY few Japanese developers lining up to put games on the 360, this means games like Infinite Undiscovery, Tales of Vesperia and Last Remenant would probably have launched on the PS3 instead, this means smaller sales for the 360 in Japan and MUCH bigger sales for the PS3, Japanese PS3 owners have been a little starved of JRPG's, thats why I predict that sales of FFXIII will push PS3 sales over the million mark.

I have no doubt what so ever that even if the 360 launched on the same day as the PS3, with all of the games it had after a year of release, it would not only have alienated the developers, but the PS3 would outsell still because of the buyes predisposition to trust PlayStation over Microsoft, Sony have a reputation far greater than that of MS for delivering the goods and there were alot of PS2 owners in 2006-7 ready to convert who got scooped us by the 360 instead.

But even with the 360's 9million unit lead, the PS3 has already eaten away 3 million in the past three years, this recent surge could see the PS3 ontop by 2011, that means, without the years lead, the PS3 would be in the lead by 3 million (minimum) and looking to expand!