Why do people vote for Hilary and Obama?

[elprincipe]

steverhcp02 said:

elprincipe said:

Nintendownsmii said:

leo-j said:
Hilary is going to give free medicare for everyone..

Umm... have you even heard her policy? It is NOT free. Infact those who currently can't, or choose not to, pay for health care will get screwed because she will make it law that you have to have health care.

This is a common misconception, especially among underage folks who know little about politics like leo-j. OMGWTFBBQ, the government is paying for it so that means it's FREE!!11!111! Anyone who knows anything will realize that government, being less efficient than the private sector in every single thing it ever has done in its history, will spend more of our money (involuntarily, unlike the current system) on health care than we do now, and the service will be worse. Or we will spend the same amount and the service will be much, much worse. Or we will spend a ton more and the service will be the same. Bottom line, we, the taxpayers, lose. Although I guess leo-j doesn't pay taxes, so no big deal, right?

I touche don this briefly in my earlier post. I pay my taxes, i live pretty damn well as im sure everyone on here does, owning a game system and having internet access.....ive got a PS3, a roof over my head, a good family that loves me, this laptop, high speed internet....i, like almost every american who complains about taxpayers losing, can EASILY afford the extra hike in taxes. Alas, we are a selfish, selfish country, we look out for only ouselves (which is funny that most of those people up in arms about not paying more taxes so folks can get dialysis or prescriptions are okay with senidn my friends and kids to die for a civil war on foreign soil) Its all about the dollar and outta site outta mind (great wilco song by the way, hehe).

We bitch as americans when our taxes are touched to aid folks in need in this country, but dont care about billions of dollars, not to mention human life being spent to help folks thousands of miles away. An interesting time indeed where a couple thouasnd young men and women are worth a foreign civil war, but god forbid we pay an extra $50 or so a month to provide healthcare in the richest country on earth. Intersting indeed.

 

The war is justified by those handful of folks that want us there and embrace us, yet the majority do not....however, when it comes to health care in this country, the mantra is the opposite....we cant think of it because of the minority that wil abuse it and ignore the majority that need it. We socialized primary and secondary education, the mail system.....its possible, it can be done other countries utilize it, there are instances of slow care, there are always certain stories, theres always two sides....but id like to error on the side of giving up a couple of nights out my with my girlfriend and some new clothes a year to help some folks in this country with the terrible burden and worry that comes with not being able to provide healthcare for their families....but thats just, imo.

I am not talking about the war, I am talking about government-run health care.  First off, I would say never assume, since you don't know my thoughts on the war in the least, nor are they related to government-run health care.

That said, yes, of course we could afford it.  We could afford 100% taxes if the government provided 100% of everything we need.  But you know what?  I don't like that system.  Not only don't I like that system, it's been tried before and failed miserably.  And that's what we'll be if government takes over health care:  miserable.  I'll say it again:  there is nothing in the history of government that has ever been run more efficiently than the private sector does it.  Sure, there are some things that by necessity must be run by the government (military, foreign relations and a few more), but making us pay more taxes because "we can afford it" is pretty dumb.  I don't know about you, but I'd rather make my own financial (and other) decisions instead of having the government screw them up for me.