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Sqrl said:
Kasz216 said:

So we're down to 15.81 Million Americans without health care. Or 5 of the US population%? (Less actually since I was being conservative.)


Now then. Looking at said report. What are some other reporting flaws. One stated is that it only counts if you are uninsured at that time.

The research they link to is old... but shows that of that 47% reported as uninsured...

between 30%-48% of the people listed as uninsured aren't uninsured for the entire year. In other words... changing jobs, and stuff like that. Most of these people do get insurance again due to the lack of increase in proportion. As for how much this should knock off. Can't say since this likely settles more towards that high end.



According to this... up to 14 million people who qualify for medicaid don't sign up.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/25/who-are-the-uninsured/

That would shockingly bring the number down to 1.81 million uninsured Americans who don't choose to be as such... though I'm not sure where he gets his number from... though I do know the number is pretty significant.

And this is still yet ignoring young people who just don't want insurance becuase they feel they don't need it.

What we really need is just a program to let people know they qualify for Medicaid.


We could be getting ready to spend 1 trillion dollars for 2 million americans healthcare....

An extention of Medicaid, a public campaign policy and a slight change in insurance rules for those with "preexisting" conditions would be so much cheaper, efficent and effective.

Just a cursory glance on my part at your numbers but it doesn't seem that you have accounted for potential overlap in some of these groups.  They aren't all mutually exclusive so it would seem appropriate to try and account for it somehow....

Even so if you used a fairly high estimate and said 30% of the total reductions are multiply counted individuals its still way too much money for not enough people covered.

I don't see where much overlap could occur.

Illegal aliens don't qualify for medicaid.

People who make 50K or more don't make medicaid... and I can't see many of them being illegal aliens.

I don't see that much room for overlap.

Though I agree even  high with huge overlap... it really shows how you always need to track down the source of numberse and disect them.