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jarrod on 30 November 2009
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jammy2211 said:
jarrod said:
jammy2211 said:
I've always thought Sony and Microsoft have an 'upper hand' in some ways on this front, because they've got PSN and XBLA. Thus companies can experiment with the motion controller userbases with lower-budget downloadable games to start, and work from there. The nature of those games seems to better suit the device too.

No matter how good WM+ sells it always seemingly raises the question, why bother? It narrows your market to 10% the size. I know you can support WM+ and not make it an exclusive feature, but theres something about that which'll still put off any ignorant consumer.

These arguments seem at odds imo.  You talk about M+ narrowing userbase and thus discouraging support, after just talking about PSN/XBLA being attractive routes for experimentation (ie: a further narrowed userbase of an already narrowed userbase)?  

Mind you Sony actually seems to be going this route (all but 1 of the officially announced PSmote games are PSN), but given their track record this gen, that may be a damning argument itself.  Microsoft at least seems to be going full tilt for retail with Natal.

 We've already seen quite a few Eye exclusive games on PSN, which I guess is where I got the idea in my head lol. Developing a game for PSN or XBLA is a really low-budget method to test the userbase; I still don't fully 'get' Sony's plan with the Wand yet so I'm really just flirting with ideas of how the things ever going to sell. I think I'm more just saying the downloadable stations actually give developers a route to try make games for the wands, instead of making a full price game and risking a huge bomb.

 I guess companies could try this with Wii Ware too, I'm not familiar with it's technical limitations and whatnot (The games are 64MB max?) but from the most the games I see on there it doesn't seem as practical, I can't honestly name 5 WiiWare games (I own a Wii) but I can name 10+ XBLA games (And I don't own a 360 lol) 0_o.

 I'm still really not sure how Sony are going to treat the things anyway, could just be another Eye Toy all over. No third party makes a PS3 exclusive nowadays so there's no chance these thigns are going to get much support in terms of full retail releases - unless it's suitable games with motion 'support' (i.e. Command and Conquer, PS3 Tennis games etc).

 

Oh sure, it could be a (comparatively) low budget route to try it out, DSiWare versus DSi enhanced/only retail being a good comparison of what to expect maybe.  It just seems any arguments where userbase comes into the picture should immediately favor Motion+, which likely has over 10m units in the wild already... how long will it take the PSmote/eye or Natal to reach 10 million?  How many Motion+ units will already be out there when either releases? 20 million?  30 million?