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eggs2see said:
cAPSLOCK said:

They have for a long time already.  Put aside HDR and the endless stream of worrying about what is more pretty, what do those graphics actually allow?

GT5's graphics bring nothing to the table compared to GT3 or GT4. Yeah it looks prettier but it's the same game. MW2 is in the same boat: what exactly do the graphics allow it to do that hasn't been done since 1998? Teeny tiny maps, guns, grenades, 20 or so players max. Hello, vehicles, are you there?

I won't bother posting pictures but go google image search ArmA 2 and X3 Terran Conflict and show me a game on any console that's capable of generating a game world that huge and detailed with that kind of draw distance.  In terms of graphics being pretty PC still wins, but in terms of what graphics can do for gameplay consoles are about 10 years behind the times.

You can load up a game with lots of brown and bloom but if it's 2001 gameplay and 2001 simplicity it's inferior to what's going on on PCs.  Show me the console equivalent to X3 Terran Conflict or ArmA 2 on one of the HD twins.  Do consoles even have an equivalent to Battlefield 2 yet?

Graphics aren't just who can make the coolest looking water effects. If the graphics are not doing their part to futher gameplay it's just technological masturbation.

 

 


I can't disagree more. I have Arma 2, and it's buggy as hell, if you disagree you are a liar, simple as that. Not to mention that ARMA 2 is still based off the original Operation flashpoint engine, and is basicly just a much better graphical version of that game.  As for GT5 not bringing anything new to the table compared to GT3 or GT4, how about 100% accurate car models, that look identical to their real life counter-parts, how about THE BEST (by a long shot) interior views, and interior modeling that has never been in a previous GT, 16 cars per race, i mean i could go on, but the simple fact is you are not a great fan of the game so you simply don't know that much about it and it shows.  You are clearly a PC fan and again, that shows.. I just wish some people would try and show alittle less bias.  If any platform is LACKING in graphics adding to gameplay it is the PC, honestly i can't think of a single game on PC that hasn't simply just upped the textures, and polygons, etc in a game.... The PC just follows what consoles do...

Again, with GT4 vs 5 they only thing you've brought up are graphics details.  I never said I wasn't a GT fan by the way, I'm just saying it hasn't advanced beyond graphics. As far as PCs following what consoles do, that's never been the case. This glut of multiplayer shooters on consoles happened back in the late 90s on PCs so that's a pretty clear case of consoles being behind PCs by about 10 years. Maybe in another 10 years consoles will discover MMOs.

And if you can't think of a single game on PC that did more than just upping textures then you're not thinking very hard.