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vlad321 said:
Ail said:
vlad321 said:
Squilliam said:

I tend to believe Joker454 from beyond3d.com when he says that hes seen data from a publisher friend about many games which failed to make money and they were critically acclaimed PC games and he talked about games which were 90% completed which were never published due to a lack of expected return unless they could also release a console version.

To be honest on the other hand publishers should stop being tardy bitches and release the data which proves the damage that they say pirates are causing. Noone takes the executives of movie/music publishers seriously because they appear to be making huge quantites of money. So yes, please publishers if you are serious about this then release some fucking data so people can actually sympathise with you for once.

Im sorry if I offended anyone with my swear words!

I think they don't have the data and just like to blame someone else as to why they aren't making money, so that if they do publish their statistics everyone will realize they just made shitty business decisions instead of other being to blame.

or more likely pirates would keep claiming as usual ' but piracy does not hurt sales ! None of those pirated copies would have been sales anyway !'

Like those 500k or so with modded 360 that just got banned of XboxLive...( I'm sorry but if you went through the trouble of modding your console you know the risks so you most likely have more than a couple pirated games and I don't really believe without access to those you woudn't have bought any game at all..)

Well hell, show me the numbers that it does and I'll shut up, until then it's like the Loch Ness monster. I'm sure you believe in that too though...

No, you won't. in a similar thread I posted a bunch of links on this very topic, and you (and other pirates) just made a bunch of excuses to ignore them. Bad games get pirated, only good game get purchased. Publishers don't release real statistics, you can't trust them. Oh, those stats only talk about a few games, surely not all games are so widely pirated. Oh, 3 games a year sell really well (made by the AAA developers), why can't they all? Oh, all piracy is from poor countries who can't buy it anyway. Listing numbers just makes you offer more justifications... it doesn't shut you up.