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ZorroX on 18 November 2009
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jarrod said:
ZorroX said:
jarrod said:
ChrisIsNotSexy said:

I see the Ps3 going 4 million+ after holidays.

Even lifetime, that seems a bit tough.  I mean, it's only selling about as well as a "failed" Wii in it's absolute best year, I'm not sure you can really expect the machine to double it's userbase after 3 years on market.  Saturn didn't, N64 didn't, GameCube didn't, and those are the platforms whose JP sales align most closely with PS3 (GC slightly under, N64/SS a bit ahead).

FFXIII is PS3's biggest game, I'm not sure there's anything possible on the horizon that to keep it from being downhill afterwards.  Maybe FFXV?  It's not getting DQ or MH...

Actually, PS3 will be 4M+ already by the end of November and probably 4.5M+ by the end of this year.

Saturn, N64, GC didn`t have such great 3rd party support as PS3 has. For 2010 alone:

FFXIV, SO4 International, Front Mission Evolved, Yakuza 4, Ar Tonelico 3, Trinity: Zill'Ol, Nier, Lost Planet 2, Dead Rising 2, Super Street Fighter 4, Metal Gear Solid Rising, Sengoku Basara 3, Castlevania: Lords of Shadows, Dinasty Warriors: Troy, First of the North Star, End of Eternity, FFXIIIv, White Album, Last Rebellion, Quantum Theory, RE5: Alternate Edition.

And that are only announced games. Not to mention 1st and 2nd party PS3 games. GT5 also will keep PS3 momentum.

Sorry, I think I misread the original statement... I thought he meant PS3 would go on to sell 4+ million after 2009, not that the install base would be 4+ million when the year ends.  Being between 4-4.5m this year is pretty much expected, I agree with that.

Saturn also had pretty good 3rd party support in Japan (from Capcom, Konami, SNK, ESP and Bandai especially).  Saturn, N64 and GC also all had far stronger 1st party support than PS3 does.   GT5's a wildcard, but it's not on level with FFXIII, and neither is anything else coming to PS3... really, it's just downhill after December...

And after 2009 PS3 will sell 4M+ even before the end of 2012. Only thing, that was holding PS3 back was a price. Now price is affordable and sales have stabilized at 30k+. They are not going below that level for 90% of 2010.

Saturn didn`t have big hitters like FFVII, MGS and GT. All it had, was Sonic. That was not enough. Same goes for N64 and GC, only that they had Mario and less 3rd party support. PS3 has much stronger 1st/2nd party support than GC&N64 had combined.

In terms of 1st/2nd party support PS3 is above Saturn/N64/GC. In terms of 3rd party support PS3 is above Saturn/N64/GC. The only PS3 problem was a price.

PS3 will stabilize at 30k+ for rest 2010 because of games, that i listed above. There are over 20 3rd party games alone. PS3 practically will be getting a new game every 2 weeks. How can it decline??

Why i`m so confident in 2010 PS3 sales? 1 year ago PS3 sales in Japan went below 20k before holidays and after 80Gb bundled with GT5P model release. This year(in Autumn), PS3 sales stay strong around 30k+ level.