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okay...this game came out here in Australia yesterday so I've got a copy and played it quite a bit...

...and I gotta say the 8.5's it's been getting from some publications and sites is probably (in my opinion)completely justified...it's a GREAT game for what it is, and I'm a pretty big mario fan...but it really doesn't (so far) bring anything new to the table...not that I really expected or wanted it too. In many ways I feel like I'm replaying smb3 or smw but slightly remixed!
(I'd give the game a 9 but if I were to judge it on some of the merits-or lack of- that the 'pros' are judging it against I'd probably give it an 8! Retro style)
One thing I'm impressed with is that the game is definately more difficult than a lot of nintendo's more recent releases (definately harder than nsmds and Galaxy)...not that it's the most difficult game out there...it's good to see nintendo have listened to some of the complaints from their older fans (who stuck with them through the shit)and I now have higher expectations for their upscoming games...

Anyway just thought I'd give my 2 cents worth cos I'm upset that a lot of you seem angry it's not getting higher scores...8.5 is a good score for a game that would've scored 10 in 1993 after all!!!