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highwaystar101 said:
Kasz216 said:
highwaystar101 said:

Alternative Republican plans I've read about all seem a bit, well, Patronising as opposed to anything else tbh.

I don't know... the main differences seem to be....

 

Democrats

Extend coverage to 36 million

Reduce Premiums to the consumer.  (While rising healthcare spending at a cost of GDP at higher rates then it's rising now..)

Cost 1 Trillion.

 

Republicans

Extend coverage to only like 3 million.

Reduce Premiums

Cost 64 billion.

 

The Republican bill doesn't really extend coverage... but it seems to do a lot more with what it's spending... and has a much better chance of actually lowering GDP healthcare expenditures... which seems to be the biggest complaing people always have in these arguements. 

80% of people are already happy with their coverage... including a lot of people that are uninsured.  Only 67% are happy with the costs.

Attacking costs, and making provisions for the few not happy with their care is the right way to do it.

Not revising everything to where it's a totally different system 80% of the people may or may not be happy about and will cost us more in the short and longrun as a country.


The republican plan with some democratic ammendments would be much more sensible.

Well as you say at the end, mixing plans would be good. I'm sure that the Republican plan is (what I would call) patronising to attempt to influence the Democrats plan to be honest. Taking the good qualities of both would be the best way to achieve a positive general consensus.

Although. Universal is just that, universal. I never get the feeling when hearing about Republican alternative plans that they want theirs to be universal.

That's because they don't.  What they want is for Healthcare to be affordable to everybody... but not be universal.

It may be hard to believe in the UK where your used to it....

However there are large numbers of people in the US who don't want Healthcare Insurance.  They just want Healthcare.

They've done the numbers and found it really unlikely they're going to get sick until later... and see the costs of healthinsurance as being just too high, when instead they could be saving or investing that money... and always just pay for their healthcare bills out of pocket....

and actually come ahead on the deal.

 

I mean... as an example.  I spend, ~$150 a month on healthcare.

Outside of regular checkups, i've been to the doctors maybe 4 times.... spent about $400 worth total of treatment my insurance covered.


I've spent about... $9,000 dollars worth of money... to receive $400 worth of benefits.  That's the thing about insruance.  It's profitable to insurance companies because most people don't need to collect.  A lot of people would rather roll the dice this way until they hit their late 20's early 30's or get married... there are others that would rather just live this way they're entire life.  Well until Medicare.

In general, the republicans want to perserve peoples right to deserve what kind of medical coverage they get... and if they even want it at all.